PSA-A Cautionary Tale!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by RobertGT

From your previous post, Leon: "IN a registry set, whoever gets the highest numbers on their pieces of paper, collectively, wins. It's not collecting cards. It's competing against friends to get the highest numbers on pieces of paper."

Yes you gave an opinion and absolutely you are entitled to it. But you are also making a sly jab at a registry collector - saying that what he's doing isn't really collecting, but apparently what you are doing is.

Maybe he just really loves sharp, beautiful cards? Same way someone loves an acclaimed painting or the finest automobile made? I am not a registry collector so I don't understand it exactly myself (mostly the cost of it) but I just tire reading about others' collecting styles put down in so many threads.

Well, I am not making a sly jab at the registry collectors. So you are wrong. I said it isn't collecting "cards" and I don't believe it is. If you do, fine. I don't. Why is my opinion criticism? Maybe you need to re-analyze the way you perceive others opinions? Maybe it is YOU that has the issue? I truly don't care how people collect but prefer to call it like I see it. I am sure the registry guys have just as much fun as the rest of us. I know some of them and they are cool cats. Maybe you are angry at something else? Have you thought about seeking counseling?

[RobertGT]

Originally Posted by Leon

Well, I am not making a sly jab at the registry collectors. So you are wrong. I said it isn't collecting "cards" and I don't believe it is. If you do, fine. I don't. Why is my opinion criticism? Maybe you need to re-analyze the way you perceive others opinions? Maybe it is YOU that has the issue? I truly don't care how people collect but prefer to call it like I see it. I am sure the registry guys have just as much fun as the rest of us. I know some of them and they are cool cats. Maybe you are angry at something else? Have you thought about seeking counseling?

Really silly, juvenile response. Not worth responding to at all so I won't, other than to say I expected more of the moderator of a great board. Instead of given sound logic, I'm insulted and told to seek counseling. I guess that's not criticism either by your definition.

And I'm having a great day and not angry at all. You were just talking about perceiving others opinions or something? Don't hang yourself with your own noose.

[bobbyw8469]

I didn't see any criticism, and now this thread has gone south! It was really a good one too. Ugh.....I hate this always happens to the good threads!

[RobertGT]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I didn't see any criticism, and now this thread has gone south! It was really a good one too. Ugh.....I hate this always happens to the good threads!

Bobby, have no worries. I have no intention to post on the thread again. It is a good thread - sorry to derail for a few minutes. Carry on - I've got to run out to my counselor.

[botn]

Originally Posted by RobertGT

Really silly, juvenile response. Not worth responding to at all so I won't, other than to say I expected more of the moderator of a great board. Instead of given sound logic, I'm insulted and told to seek counseling. I guess that's not criticism either by your definition.

And I'm having a great day and not angry at all. You were just talking about perceiving others opinions or something? Don't hang yourself with your own noose.

Rob consider yourself luckey, er... lucky, the last Rob to voice a differing opinion to Leon's resulted in his telling that guy to F-Off.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by botn

Rob consider yourself luckey, er... lucky, the last Rob to voice a differing opinion to Leon's resulted in his telling that guy to F-Off.

From what I was told, Why don't you go shill some more of your auctions?

[smtjoy]

Interesting thread.

I know a coin dealer who submitted a 4K coin 65 times at over $100 a pop walk thru, on the 65th try the coin got the grade he felt it deserved and became a 45k coin......

[CMIZ5290]

I still would like to hear Joe's side of this, some of you PSA haters may be a little surprised.....

[ullmandds]

kevin...please...let us know Joe's side of the story...I'd love to hear it...but I highly doubt we ever will.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

kevin...please...let us know Joe's side of the story...I'd love to her it...but I highly doubt we ever will.

You are probably right Pete, I'm sure Joe has better things to do than worry about this forum....

[seablaster]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

You are probably right Pete, I'm sure Joe has better things to do than worry about this forum....

I'm sure he does too Kevin, but he should be concerned with the way he and the brand he represents are being portrayed.

I too would be interested in hearing his response.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I still would like to hear Joe's side of this, some of you PSA haters may be a little surprised.....

I would only be surprised if Joe actually responded. Kevin, Joe will handle this problem like they do all their other problems - just sweep it under the rug and hope it goes away.

When have you ever seen PSA handle a problem head-on on an open forum? Come on, you don't have to be a PSA hater to know that is how they deal with problems.

[CaramelMan]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I still would like to hear Joe's side of this, some of you PSA haters may be a little surprised.....

Mbmiller is not a PSA basher...in fact I used to think of him as a PSA supporter....
This is a sad thread.....

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by CaramelMan

Mbmiller is not a PSA basher...in fact I used to think of him as a PSA supporter....
This is a sad thread.....

Scott- did not mean Matt, but others on the Board....

[CMIZ5290]

I have spoken with Joe Orlando for about 25 minutes, maybe longer....As I said before in other posts, both sides need to be heard pertaining this situation. From Talking to Joe, the beginning of the conversation is pretty much agreed upon, but then rapidly changes. Joe relayed to me that any open discussions can be made to him personally, and he is always open to talking with Net54 members....

[nolemmings]

I know a coin dealer who submitted a 4K coin 65 times at over $100 a pop walk thru, on the 65th try the coin got the grade he felt it deserved and became a 45k coin......

So when he sold it can be said he flipped a coin?

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I still would like to hear Joe's side of this, some of you PSA haters may be a little surprised.....

I think everyone would be surprised to hear Joe's side on any public issue brought out against PSA since he publicly stays quiet about everything.

[HRBAKER]

A party makes a claim about PSA on the board. Another party calls PSA and they have a different take on the whole affair than the one which portrayed them in a negative fashion. Shocking.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

A party makes a claim about PSA on the board. Another party calls PSA and they have a different take on the whole affair than the one which portrayed them in a negative fashion. Shocking.

But we are not told the substance of the different take -- even better.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

A party makes a claim about PSA on the board. Another party calls PSA and they have a different take on the whole affair than the one which portrayed them in a negative fashion. Shocking.

Are you people living in a fantasy world?? Joe Orlando doesn't give a shit about what you think...He did, however, offer anyone a true statement of what happened in the phone conversation.....What else do you want? Oh, I know, witch hunt time.....

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Are you people living in a fantasy world?? Joe Orlando doesn't give a shit about what you think...He did, however, offer anyone a true statement of what happened in the phone conversation.....

Kevin,

No, no fantasy here. My point is that I would expect them to have a different perspective than the one which portrayed them negatively. And, I don't give a shit who gives a shit frankly.

Jeff

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Are you people living in a fantasy world?? Joe Orlando doesn't give a shit about what you think...He did, however, offer anyone a true statement of what happened in the phone conversation.....What else do you want? Oh, I know, witch hunt time.....

But you are constrained from saying what his version is??