recent m101-6 jackson

[ullmandds]

After I read the hall of shame article a week or 2 ago...I saw the image of the other JJ card...can't remember where.

IT seems to have been easily viewable somewhere on the internet.

regardless...it appears goldin handled the situation reasonably appropriately...esp in comparison to other similar examples by other AH's.

[jhs5120]

So it looks like there are definitely two (possibly three) of these in the hobby. I think Ken went above and beyond in handling the situation and according to the winning bidder, he does not regret the purchase. Kudos to Ken.

[nolemmings]

Isn't that the same stamp that appears on the Goldin copy?

Yep, same stamp, same card--cropped slightly and photo-shopped.

Pete please think hard on where you saw that other image, because I have not seen a second (thought I did years ago, but was mistaken, as I recalled a fielding pose).

[Peter_Spaeth]

Not even Nash insinuates there was an image of another M101-6 publicly available, at least as I read his post. That being the case, and given that Ken says he still has not seen an image of another one, I wonder what the "conclusive" evidence Ken mentions was that convinced him to change the auction description. The old Leland's description Nash mentions does appear to be erroneous and refers to an M101-4.

[ullmandds]

i must have seen the one that's on the black betsy web site which appears to be a different one that was in goldins auction.

[kengoldin]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not even Nash insinuates there was an image of another M101-6 publicly available, at least as I read his post. That being the case, and given that Ken says he still has not seen an image of another one, I wonder what the "conclusive" evidence Ken mentions was that convinced him to change the auction description. The old Leland's description Nash mentions does appear to be erroneous and refers to an M101-4.

Still have not seen another images of an actual card besides one that was sold.
I was emailed a copy of of the 1994 listing of a the card in question on that date, and although it was listed as a 1919 card and did not show a picture, I thought it was prudent to edit and be cautious since it was so close to auction close .
The image on black Betsy appears to be a photo, not a card as the background is different ( when I last looked a week ago)My writer was not aware of that photo though either.

[MattyC]

Does the issue made at that linked website strike anyone else as pure high school drama for the sake of drama? The outing of fake autos is one thing, but if I read it accurately, here we have...

Some info came to light, a description was amended, bidders were e-mailed and offered retractions if so desired.

It is an AWESOME card, zero debating that, and I'm sure whoever now owns it is thrilled-- and rightfully so.

What is the Sturm und Drang all about?

[ullmandds]

halls of shame is definitely partial truths mixed with a whole lot of drama!

[ullmandds]

surely someone must have an old lelands catalog with aforementioned JJ card?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Does the issue made at that linked website strike anyone else as pure high school drama for the sake of drama? The outing of fake autos is one thing, but if I read it accurately, here we have...

Some info came to light, a description was amended, bidders were e-mailed and offered retractions if so desired.

It is an AWESOME card, zero debating that, and I'm sure whoever now owns it is thrilled-- and rightfully so.

What is the Sturm und Drang all about?

Nash appears to be arguing that the 1994 consignor had informed Goldin Auctions about the prior sale back in September, but that Goldin Auctions had continued to claim the card was unique.