Grading Question

[bnorth]

I am with Larry(savedfrommyspokes) on this. If a PSA holder has any and I do mean any frosting stay far far away from it. I can crack them easily leaving very little to no frosting. It is very easy. The bottom left corner of the Seaver card slab is scary looking to me.

I am not saying there is anything wrong with the card, just saying it is crazy easy to crack a slab and leave way less frosting than it has.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I can crack them easily leaving very little to no frosting.

Of course you can. Cracking them is not the problem. It's putting them back together that's the problem. I guarantee you that you can't crack a PSA slab, put it back together (super glue or any other method you want to) and not leave frosting all the way around the edges. Try it on a cheap card. You'll see.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Of course you can. Cracking them is not the problem. It's putting them back together that's the problem. I guarantee you that you can't crack a PSA slab, put it back together (super glue or any other method you want to) and not leave frosting all the way around the edges. Try it on a cheap card. You'll see.

I have never tried to put one back together. Will have to buy a few cheap ones and try it.
Do you know why glueing it back together would made it frost?

Edit: The cards David pictured are not in the same holder. Same serial# but not the same holder.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Do you know why glueing it back together would made it frost?

If I understand the process correctly, it's not really the glueing back together that makes it frost. When PSA slabs a card, it is sonically sealed. They don’t use any adhesive or anything to join the two halves of the slab. Now, when you crack a slab in two, there are tiny amounts of plastic that transfer from each piece (half of the slab) to another. Even if you get a clean break and both pieces are intact, there is still some amount of transfer. When you go to reseal the case, we don’t have the same technology that PSA does to sonically re-seal the case. Even if we did, the plastic transfer is what causes the frosting and it would still show through anyway. Glue just makes it even worse.

Originally Posted by bnorth

Edit: The cards David pictured are not in the same holder. Same serial# but not the same holder.

What makes you say that?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

If I understand the process correctly, it's not really the glueing back together that makes it frost. When PSA slabs a card, it is sonically sealed. They don’t use any adhesive or anything to join the two halves of the slab. Now, when you crack a slab in two, there are tiny amounts of plastic that transfer from each piece (half of the slab) to another. Even if you get a clean break and both pieces are intact, there is still some amount of transfer. When you go to reseal the case, we don’t have the same technology that PSA does to sonically re-seal the case. Even if we did, the plastic transfer is what causes the frosting and it would still show through anyway. Glue just makes it even worse.



What makes you say that?

Because the Gem MT 10 location on the slip.
The glueing make sense the way you explained it. Thanks

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Edit: The cards David pictured are not in the same holder. Same serial# but not the same holder.

You're right, the labels are different. It was probably re-slabbed. It's definitely the same card though. You can tell that from the back.