Simple Auction Site

[sports-rings]

I may be bidding with an auction house I have never done business with before. They are using simpleauctionsite.com for their bidding software.

In case I need to put a max bid in before the end of the auction, can the readers here reassure me that the auction house will not have my ceiling bid information?

I recall that's the case, but just want to be sure. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by sports-rings

I may be bidding with an auction house I have never done business with before. They are using simpleauctionsite.com for their bidding software.

In case I need to put a max bid in before the end of the auction, can the readers here reassure me that the auction house will not have my ceiling bid information?

I recall that's the case, but just want to be sure. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

You have to ask the auction house that. Sometimes they will state it in their rules. Simple Auction s/w can be programmed however the auction house wants. B and L has never seen up to bids nor will we.

[sports-rings]

thanks Leon,

that's good to know.

Wish it was kind of mandated by simpleauctinosite.com that all auction houses could not see ceiling bids.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by sports-rings

thanks Leon,

that's good to know.

Wish it was kind of mandated by simpleauctinosite.com that all auction houses could not see ceiling bids.

IMO that would have been a bad move on their part. Businesses should be able to do what they want to. It is up to us collectors to support AH's decisions or not. Would you want your car to be limited to the speed limit by the automaker?

[drcy]

Agree with Leon. Simple Auction is offering customized computer software and programing services. It's not up to them to dictate auction houses' bidding rules. They probably wouldn't have many if any customers if they dictated bidding rules and auction houses' shipping rates, premium percentages and return policies on people who paid for their services, and I would imagine a selling point is the software is customizable.

[thehoodedcoder]

If you as a customer, do not trust the software that the auction house uses for, say reliability for taking your bids and it affected your bidding strategies etc. couldn't and wouldn't it affect your business with merchants that use that software?

On a similar note, If you knew that you constantly get screwed by that software's max bid system wouldn't you be hesitant to buy from people that use it?

I'd like to think so. You as a buyer have to trust the seller, and the software manufacturer which is an extension of the sellers business model. It is upon both of them of them to make and implement software with integrity. If there is no useful purpose for that information or that information can only be used to perpetuate things which are illegal, then I would say that it is equally as important for the software manufacturer to put adequate protections into place to protect against their own liability.

I'm certain that if it ever got out, that the software could do that, the number of people wanting to bid with that software using a max bid, would go down fast. I have always questioned to what extent the software protects against someone with above average computer skills, from determining what a max bid is, even if the software had intentions to hide this information and I'd still be interested in investigating the back end, and code to determine if there are any gaps that should be closed.

As a side note, consider this scenario: If say B and L use SimpleAuctionSite for their business and someone finds an exploit in the software which was reported as a problem(lets say personally identifiable information loss or credit card numbers are stolen) which was not addressed by the software vendor who knew the problem existed, the software vendor could be liable for not addressing known issues which resulted in the losses to the customer due to negligence.

Kevin

[Leon]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

If you as a customer, do not trust the software that the auction house uses for, say reliability for taking your bids and it affected your bidding strategies etc. couldn't and wouldn't it affect your business with merchants that use that software?

On a similar note, If you knew that you constantly get screwed by that software's max bid system wouldn't you be hesitant to buy from people that use it?

I'd like to think so. You as a buyer have to trust the seller, and the software manufacturer which is an extension of the sellers business model. It is upon both of them of them to make and implement software with integrity. If there is no useful purpose for that information or that information can only be used to perpetuate things which are illegal, then I would say that it is equally as important for the software manufacturer to put adequate protections into place to protect against their own liability.

I'm certain that if it ever got out, that the software could do that, the number of people wanting to bid with that software using a max bid, would go down fast. I have always questioned to what extent the software protects against someone with above average computer skills, from determining what a max bid is, even if the software had intentions to hide this information and I'd still be interested in investigating the back end, and code to determine if there are any gaps that should be closed.

As a side note, consider this scenario: If say B and L use SimpleAuctionSite for their business and someone finds an exploit in the software which was reported as a problem(lets say personally identifiable information loss or credit card numbers are stolen) which was not addressed by the software vendor who knew the problem existed, the software vendor could be liable for not addressing known issues which resulted in the losses to the customer due to negligence.

Kevin

If my uncle had tits he would be my aunt. You make a lot of accusations and assumptions and personally I think you are speaking out of your ass. (changed to make sense, but I don't think the point was lost...thanks Denny )