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Old 07-08-2014, 12:57 PM
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Why don't you tell us where you are finding these, as none of the rest of us are seeing them. Same for the penciled Ruth autograph. You seem to have access to a lot of questionable Ruth stuff - where are you getting it?
Scott, here is another guy who just signed up and does not even have a name. I think he might be testing the market place.
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:08 PM
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This is getting a little stupid.
Some idiot is just taking a signature and attempting to paste it on old paper. It is the exact same signature. Anyone who would fall for this is a moron.
Being a new member, perhaps the OP should introduce him/herself to everyone, because pretty soon people are going to start thinking that they're the one doing it at home and then showing to us to see if we approve.
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This is getting a little stupid.
Some idiot is just taking a signature and attempting to paste it on old paper. It is the exact same signature. Anyone who would fall for this is a moron.
Being a new member, perhaps the OP should introduce him/herself to everyone, because pretty soon people are going to start thinking that they're the one doing it at home and then showing to us to see if we approve.
Yes, but there are plenty of morons buying such stuff. If a forgery dealer could work his way into the 'almost a moron' group of buyers by learning more from members here, I'm sure he would do so. As you say, the OP just needs to do what everyone else here does: introduce himself, understanding how this might look to us, given that his approach so far has been almost identical to what the scammers here have tried. Not saying it's quacking exactly like a duck...

It's appropriate that you mention "introducing". Once I see a person's name posted, I feel more comfortable about them. Months-years of interaction add to that. Then when I see their picture the comfort level rises a little more. And finally we meet each other, and they could probably be crooked as hell, but I'd trust them much more than someone who is brand new on the internet, invisible and anonymous. It's just the way it works.
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:27 PM
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Yes, but there are plenty of morons buying such stuff. If a forgery dealer could work his way into the 'almost a moron' group of buyers by learning more from members here, I'm sure he would do so. As you say, the OP just needs to do what everyone else here does: introduce himself, understanding how this might look to us, given that his approach so far has been almost identical to what the scammers here have tried. Not saying it's quacking exactly like a duck...

It's appropriate that you mention "introducing". Once I see a person's name posted, I feel more comfortable about them. Months-years of interaction add to that. Then when I see their picture the comfort level rises a little more. And finally we meet each other, and they could probably be crooked as hell, but I'd trust them much more than someone who is brand new on the internet, invisible and anonymous. It's just the way it works.
Agreed.
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the OP just needs to do what everyone else here does: introduce himself, understanding how this might look to us
I guess the relevant part of my post didn't seem relevant enough
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Carmelo,
It may seem to be overkill, but, unfortunately, we do get a seemingly increasing number of people who's initial posts are asking about authenticity of big name autographs. Considering the amount of fraud in the hobby, it is natural for anyone to be suspicious. As you stated, you're just getting into this retro stuff. Please take it from those of us who have been in it for a while, that there is a real reason to be skeptical. It's not personal, we are suspicious because scammers are everywhere. Perhaps everything isn't a gotcha moment, but we have seen our fair share of them, so perhaps we are bit jaded. It isn't silly, just prudent.
If you stay, you will see that, as a whole, we are a very knowledgeable bunch who will go out of our way to help other collectors.
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Old 07-08-2014, 04:22 PM
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Carmelo,
It may seem to be overkill, but, unfortunately, we do get a seemingly increasing number of people who's initial posts are asking about authenticity of big name autographs. Considering the amount of fraud in the hobby, it is natural for anyone to be suspicious. As you stated, you're just getting into this retro stuff. Please take it from those of us who have been in it for a while, that there is a real reason to be skeptical. It's not personal, we are suspicious because scammers are everywhere. Perhaps everything isn't a gotcha moment, but we have seen our fair share of them, so perhaps we are bit jaded. It isn't silly, just prudent.
If you stay, you will see that, as a whole, we are a very knowledgeable bunch who will go out of our way to help other collectors.
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This, all of this. While I'm not the most seasoned collector - and I won't go into vintage stuff much if at all in my life time- this forum is a great resource to learn. Unfortunately- there are some that look to hone their illegitimate craft as much as those who just want to learn.

I'll lend a hand when I can on modern stuff- but this forum is easily one of the most friendly and fun boards I've been on.
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Old 07-08-2014, 04:22 PM
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Carmelo,
It may seem to be overkill, but, unfortunately, we do get a seemingly increasing number of people who's initial posts are asking about authenticity of big name autographs. Considering the amount of fraud in the hobby, it is natural for anyone to be suspicious. As you stated, you're just getting into this retro stuff. Please take it from those of us who have been in it for a while, that there is a real reason to be skeptical. It's not personal, we are suspicious because scammers are everywhere. Perhaps everything isn't a gotcha moment, but we have seen our fair share of them, so perhaps we are bit jaded. It isn't silly, just prudent.
If you stay, you will see that, as a whole, we are a very knowledgeable bunch who will go out of our way to help other collectors.
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An intelligent and well thought reply like this is what I've expected. I thank you mark, to the others, from a well respected modern day game used memorabilia collector, I've been let down.
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edited - I'm not buying any of this. Way too much protesting.
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An intelligent and well thought reply like this is what I've expected. I thank you mark, to the others, from a well respected modern day game used memorabilia collector, I've been let down.
That is a bull shit. How does anyone that has no idea who you are let you down.
Please tell me who the hell you are, to insult people that have only tried to help everyone on this site modern and old. Who the hell respects you?
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Shelly - I'm not quite as cynical as you...yet. Perhaps we're just hearing a really good duck impersonation.
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Wow really guys? Please look up who yankees506 is on gameuseduniverse. That's me, my name is carmelo by the way. Is this how you guys treat everyone who first joins? I don't know how there are any members if so. I'm just looking to pass/gain info and get snobby and cynical replies like I'm some kind of scammer. Geesh for complete disclosure:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-AU...item3f38260e6e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171379608949...84.m1423.l2649

And no I'm not the seller of either items, I was just looking and doing my research as I've stated before I am just getting into this retro stuff. Long winded post are not my thing but come on guys. Take a step back, you don't have everyone "figured" out and not everything is a "gotcha" moment.

Here is where I found the card

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Old 07-08-2014, 01:42 PM
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Wow really guys? Please look up who yankees506 is on gameuseduniverse. That's me, my name is carmelo by the way. Is this how you guys treat everyone who first joins? I don't know how there are any members if so. I'm just looking to pass/gain info and get snobby and cynical replies like I'm some kind of scammer. Geesh for complete disclosure:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-AU...item3f38260e6e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171379608949...84.m1423.l2649

And no I'm not the seller of either items, I was just looking and doing my research as I've stated before I am just getting into this retro stuff. Long winded post are not my thing but come on guys. Take a step back, you don't have everyone "figured" out and not everything is a "gotcha" moment.

Here is where I found the card

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...kaged-product/
Yes is the answer if you dont put your name up there and ask a million questions.
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:43 PM
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Wow really guys? Please look up who yankees506 is on gameuseduniverse. That's me, my name is carmelo by the way. Is this how you guys treat everyone who first joins? I don't know how there are any members if so. I'm just looking to pass/gain info and get snobby and cynical replies like I'm some kind of scammer. Geesh for complete disclosure:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-AU...item3f38260e6e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171379608949...84.m1423.l2649

And no I'm not the seller of either items, I was just looking and doing my research as I've stated before I am just getting into this retro stuff. Long winded post are not my thing but come on guys. Take a step back, you don't have everyone "figured" out and not everything is a "gotcha" moment.

Here is where I found the card

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...kaged-product/
Yes is the answer if you dont put your name up there and ask a million questions.
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:43 PM
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Wow really guys? Please look up who yankees506 is on gameuseduniverse. That's me, my name is carmelo by the way. Is this how you guys treat everyone who first joins? I don't know how there are any members if so. I'm just looking to pass/gain info and get snobby and cynical replies like I'm some kind of scammer. Geesh for complete disclosure:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-AU...item3f38260e6e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171379608949...84.m1423.l2649

And no I'm not the seller of either items, I was just looking and doing my research as I've stated before I am just getting into this retro stuff. Long winded post are not my thing but come on guys. Take a step back, you don't have everyone "figured" out and not everything is a "gotcha" moment.

Here is where I found the card

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...kaged-product/
Yes is the answer if you dont put your name up there and ask a million questions.
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Wow really guys? Please look up who yankees506 is on gameuseduniverse. That's me, my name is carmelo by the way. Is this how you guys treat everyone who first joins? I don't know how there are any members if so. I'm just looking to pass/gain info and get snobby and cynical replies like I'm some kind of scammer. Geesh for complete disclosure:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-AU...item3f38260e6e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171379608949...84.m1423.l2649

And no I'm not the seller of either items, I was just looking and doing my research as I've stated before I am just getting into this retro stuff. Long winded post are not my thing but come on guys. Take a step back, you don't have everyone "figured" out and not everything is a "gotcha" moment.

Here is where I found the card

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...kaged-product/
Yes is the answer if you dont put your name up there and ask a million questions.
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Wow really guys? Please look up who yankees506 is on gameuseduniverse. That's me, my name is carmelo by the way. Is this how you guys treat everyone who first joins? I don't know how there are any members if so. I'm just looking to pass/gain info and get snobby and cynical replies like I'm some kind of scammer. Geesh for complete disclosure:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-AU...item3f38260e6e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171379608949...84.m1423.l2649

And no I'm not the seller of either items, I was just looking and doing my research as I've stated before I am just getting into this retro stuff. Long winded post are not my thing but come on guys. Take a step back, you don't have everyone "figured" out and not everything is a "gotcha" moment.

Here is where I found the card

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...kaged-product/
Yes is the answer if you dont put your name up there and ask a million questions.
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Sorry, key must have stuck.
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Yes is the answer if you dont put your name up there and ask a million questions.
Dude I have 18 post and I'm asking a million questions? Mind you this thread was me letting you guys know about an authentic sig that has been copied and looks real. silly man silly
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Old 07-08-2014, 03:58 PM
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Dude I have 18 post and I'm asking a million questions? Mind you this thread was me letting you guys know about an authentic sig that has been copied and looks real. silly man silly

You still dont have your name up there and we might be silly man silly but just do the right thing and there are no problems.
Thanks for showing us that Ruth
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