Ruth can do the impossible!

Lordstan · #1 07-08-2014, 04:06 PM

Carmelo,
It may seem to be overkill, but, unfortunately, we do get a seemingly increasing number of people who's initial posts are asking about authenticity of big name autographs. Considering the amount of fraud in the hobby, it is natural for anyone to be suspicious. As you stated, you're just getting into this retro stuff. Please take it from those of us who have been in it for a while, that there is a real reason to be skeptical. It's not personal, we are suspicious because scammers are everywhere. Perhaps everything isn't a gotcha moment, but we have seen our fair share of them, so perhaps we are bit jaded. It isn't silly, just prudent.
If you stay, you will see that, as a whole, we are a very knowledgeable bunch who will go out of our way to help other collectors.
Mark

Cfern023 · #2 07-08-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordstan

Carmelo,
It may seem to be overkill, but, unfortunately, we do get a seemingly increasing number of people who's initial posts are asking about authenticity of big name autographs. Considering the amount of fraud in the hobby, it is natural for anyone to be suspicious. As you stated, you're just getting into this retro stuff. Please take it from those of us who have been in it for a while, that there is a real reason to be skeptical. It's not personal, we are suspicious because scammers are everywhere. Perhaps everything isn't a gotcha moment, but we have seen our fair share of them, so perhaps we are bit jaded. It isn't silly, just prudent.
If you stay, you will see that, as a whole, we are a very knowledgeable bunch who will go out of our way to help other collectors.
Mark

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This, all of this. While I'm not the most seasoned collector - and I won't go into vintage stuff much if at all in my life time- this forum is a great resource to learn. Unfortunately- there are some that look to hone their illegitimate craft as much as those who just want to learn.

I'll lend a hand when I can on modern stuff- but this forum is easily one of the most friendly and fun boards I've been on.

Nyygameused · #3 07-08-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordstan

Carmelo,
It may seem to be overkill, but, unfortunately, we do get a seemingly increasing number of people who's initial posts are asking about authenticity of big name autographs. Considering the amount of fraud in the hobby, it is natural for anyone to be suspicious. As you stated, you're just getting into this retro stuff. Please take it from those of us who have been in it for a while, that there is a real reason to be skeptical. It's not personal, we are suspicious because scammers are everywhere. Perhaps everything isn't a gotcha moment, but we have seen our fair share of them, so perhaps we are bit jaded. It isn't silly, just prudent.
If you stay, you will see that, as a whole, we are a very knowledgeable bunch who will go out of our way to help other collectors.
Mark

An intelligent and well thought reply like this is what I've expected. I thank you mark, to the others, from a well respected modern day game used memorabilia collector, I've been let down.

Runscott · #4 07-08-2014, 05:17 PM

edited - I'm not buying any of this. Way too much protesting.

shelly · #5 07-08-2014, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyygameused

An intelligent and well thought reply like this is what I've expected. I thank you mark, to the others, from a well respected modern day game used memorabilia collector, I've been let down.

That is a bull shit. How does anyone that has no idea who you are let you down.
Please tell me who the hell you are, to insult people that have only tried to help everyone on this site modern and old. Who the hell respects you?

Nyygameused · #6 07-08-2014, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shelly

That is a bull shit. How does anyone that has no idea who you are let you down.
Please tell me who the hell you are, to insult people that have only tried to help everyone on this site modern and old. Who the hell respects you?

My man, again I have been on gameuseduniverse for five years, my name is yankees506 on that forum. A member since early 2010, a robinson cano collector and yankees modern day memorabilia collector.

Here is a thread I started on that forum, these are "who the hell respects me"

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ad.php?t=42632

This is who the f*ck I am. Lord have mercy. Do I need to bump this thread on guu and everything to prove my credibility? Some of you guys on this forum need to take your heads out of the sand.

JT · #7 07-08-2014, 09:16 PM

NY....

Simple rule on this forum.....put your name under your handle, or Leon will do it for you.

Runscott · #8 07-08-2014, 09:36 PM

GUU? Now that is really funny. I posted over there maybe 5-10 times and got almost ZERO response to any of my questions. A couple of guys did respond, and a couple also took snipes at me because I accidentally made a mistake or two. Do you think I responded by telling them how famous I was on Net54 (not that I am) as an excuse for behaving in a manner that they considered odd or inappropriate?

If my head was in the sand we'd be bumping noses ('sand' being a euphemism for something a bit more odiferous).

Nyygameused · #9 07-08-2014, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

GUU? Now that is really funny. I posted over there maybe 5-10 times and got almost ZERO response to any of my questions. A couple of guys did respond, and a couple also took snipes at me because I accidentally made a mistake or two. Do you think I responded by telling them how famous I was on Net54 (not that I am) as an excuse for behaving in a manner that they considered odd or inappropriate?

If my head was in the sand we'd be bumping noses ('sand' being a euphemism for something a bit more odiferous).

Since you guys seem to want to sling mud at anyone and everyone you guys perceive as a scammer, how else does one prove he's up to par with you guys? I never claimed to be "famous" guy so I don't know where that is coming from. I'm glad I didn't have to post what I really wanted to post instead of sand for you to get it. Great job great Scott

Deertick · #10 07-08-2014, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JT

NY....

Simple rule on this forum.....put your name under your handle, or Leon will do it for you.

Not quite:
"Anonymous, where this board is concerned, implies that you are not known to the moderator or anyone else. That is not permitted on Net54baseball. However, you may remain private on the board; otherwise, as long your post is not argumentative, controversial, confrontational, accusatorial etc.�For example you can discuss attributes of cards, sets or memorabilia and stay private. You can not say someone is an imbecile, hard to deal with, gave poor service etc�and remain private on the board. In addition to that if your opinion is that you dislike someone, hate them, can�t stand or don�t like anything about them, and you want to tell the world about it on Net54baseball, then your full name will need to be in your post. The moderator may put the posters name on the board or delete their posts, at his sole discretion, when this rule is not adhered to. Heated debates will require first and last names to be known, and made public, on the board."

Hard-headed and defensive is not in there. However, how much effort does it take to say "My name is XXX. You may have heard of me on XXX.com under the handle XXX."??

Nyygameused · #11 07-08-2014, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Deertick

Not quite:
"Anonymous, where this board is concerned, implies that you are not known to the moderator or anyone else. That is not permitted on Net54baseball. However, you may remain private on the board; otherwise, as long your post is not argumentative, controversial, confrontational, accusatorial etc.�For example you can discuss attributes of cards, sets or memorabilia and stay private. You can not say someone is an imbecile, hard to deal with, gave poor service etc�and remain private on the board. In addition to that if your opinion is that you dislike someone, hate them, can�t stand or don�t like anything about them, and you want to tell the world about it on Net54baseball, then your full name will need to be in your post. The moderator may put the posters name on the board or delete their posts, at his sole discretion, when this rule is not adhered to. Heated debates will require first and last names to be known, and made public, on the board."

Hard-headed and defensive is not in there. However, how much effort does it take to say "My name is XXX. You may have heard of me on XXX.com under the handle XXX."??

Again, my name is carmelo, you may have heard of me on gameuseduniverse.com under the handle yankees 506. I thought my first post was sufficient, I'm glad I'm not defending myself against cops or else I'd be looking at life it seems: my first post

"Hello everyone, longtime lurker on this site until I purchased a ruth fan letter once belonging to a nice member on here who suggested I go ahead and join. Long time collector of the modern stuff autos and game used. Just getting into the jungle of the high end vintage stuff."

Ok well to the business at hand, this item is being offered to me with a story of being cut out of a 1920s yankees scorecard (blue pencils supplied at the time???) any info on authenticity is appreciated!

shelly · #12 07-08-2014, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyygameused

My man, again I have been on gameuseduniverse for five years, my name is yankees506 on that forum. A member since early 2010, a robinson cano collector and yankees modern day memorabilia collector.

Here is a thread I started on that forum, these are "who the hell respects me"

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ad.php?t=42632

This is who the f*ck I am. Lord have mercy. Do I need to bump this thread on guu and everything to prove my credibility? Some of you guys on this forum need to take your heads out of the sand.

One thing you will never be is my man. If you dont like the sand box get the hell out. My Man.
Last but not least my man. Why did you not say who the hell you where before you came on. I would like to know what auction house's use your great knowledge?
Wow a member of a site that means zip to me. You must be the most respected person I have never heard of.

Nyygameused · #13 07-08-2014, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shelly

One thing you will never be is my man. If you dont like the sand box get the hell out. My Man.
Last but not least my man. Why did you not say who the hell you where before you came on. I would like to know what auction house's use your great knowledge? How many auction houses use you to cert there items?
Wow a member of a site that means zip to me. You must be the most respected person I have never heard of.

I'm not going to go on a personal attack "my man". However before you go ahead and assume you know who any of us (new to THIS forum are) please use a bit more brain power. As I never said "is this auto good" (on this thread) I was passing along info on a replicated auto. Your right however, I plan to stay on this forum and this is one "man" you have left a bad taste in the mouth of. FYI up here in nyc "my man" is a term of endearment, never again with you "my man".

Runscott · #14 07-08-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shelly

Wow a member of a site that means zip to me. You must be the most respected person I have never heard of.

I joined that site in 2007 to respond to a post by a friend. I never needed it again until last year when I needed help regarding a modern game-used item. I totally forgot that I had ever been there, and re-registered in February, this year. My questions were largely ignored, my comments not responded to, and after 24 posts I gave up and forgot about them again, until now.

There is some good information there, but it's mostly the famous guys responding to the famous guys, so it makes sense that NY guy, being famous and all, is quite happy. Maybe I should have told them that I was famous at Net54? (or infamous).

Lordstan · #15 07-08-2014, 09:14 PM

A couple things.
Carmelo,
None of us here know you, so how could we possibly judge you or your reputation as being either good or bad. All we have is what has happened in this thread. People here usually are annoyed by people who don't identify themselves, by posting their name or information about themselves. Suppose some stranger just walks up to you asks for your opinion about something. Wouldn't you think it's more reasonable for that person to walk up hand outstretched saying, "Hi. I am Mark. I heard your really good at bats, could you give me your opinion?" Why wouldn't it be the same here? You're asking people's opinions without so much as a Hi. How do you expect us to know you're on another board and your level of expertise or experience? Fortunately and unfortunately that internet allows people to hide behind anonymity. If you don't identify yourself, skeptical people like us will assume the worst. If you had identified yourself, perhaps the response would have been different.

Also, the one he initially posted sold for $2300. I sent an email to the seller and reported it to eBay. If anyone has any pull with eBay, perhaps they can report it as well.

http://item.ebay.ca/itm/BABE-RUTH-AU...item3f38260e6e

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