Saco River Auctions

sbfinley · #1 07-26-2014, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

as I write this right now, half way home in Lebanon TN.

Well shit Leon, if I'd known you were stopping in my Podunk hometown I would have bought dinner or least scotch.

drcy · #2 07-26-2014, 02:50 AM

I've never read the advertising rules or advertised, but through observation of the board know that it's a rule that an auction house can't post about their auctions on the front page if they don't have a banner. Auction houses have tried before and were advised to buy a banner. Once they have a banner they can post news and updates about their auctions.

As Leon once stated, the idea is it's unfair to the people who buy banners if auction houses can simply advertise for free by starting threads.

So I can testify that isn't a new rule.

ibuysportsephemera · #3 07-26-2014, 05:07 AM

Having to wait for 2 months to be paid is bad enough, but the lack of communication would make me question a future business relationship.

Just my 2�.

Jeff G@rf!nke!

Texxxx · #4 07-26-2014, 05:33 AM

John
As a business owner for over 30 years, I totally believe in tar and feathering people that knowingly dont pay there bills. Mistakes happen but it is had to call this a mistake by Troy.

autograf · #5 07-26-2014, 06:37 AM

If you can't pay on time for months already rendered, you go on a three months ahead basis. You don't pay, your upcoming three months are shut down.

iwantitiwinit · #6 07-26-2014, 07:12 AM

If he wants to advertise with you I'd say fine but he has to be at least 2 months paid in full in advance. If he values the advertising that shouldn't be a problem especially since it's only 200/month. If he argues dump him and don't give it a second thought.

Exhibitman · #7 07-26-2014, 07:23 AM

The timeline of events is most persuasive as far as I am concerned. Seems pretty clear that Saco had no intention of paying for the advertising unless/until it needed to pimp the next auction. I HATE doing business with auctioneers who take their sweet time paying consignors and sending out items, so I am not impressed by an AH that can't be bothered to pay a piddling bill for months on end; what does that say about that AH's attitude towards handling business transactions? Business should be conducted in a business-like manner.

I also agree 100% with not allowing an AH that doesn't have a banner to have a free run at pimping its services on the main page. That's just not right. When my partners and I were contemplating our first card show we did not think of pushing the show here without also advertising, and we were offering a free gathering for the N54 members to enjoy [sure as hell wasn't a money-maker...].

ETA: after seeing Saco's response, WTF???

lug-nut · #8 07-26-2014, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

If he wants to advertise with you I'd say fine but he has to be at least 2 months paid in full in advance. If he values the advertising that shouldn't be a problem especially since it's only 200/month. If he argues dump him and don't give it a second thought.

i kinda agree but one month is fine by me...once he has shown a continuous string of months of paying on time (1 year+) i'd consider letting him back to normal with a short leash...it was bad business on his part and Leon was more than grateful to allow to to go so long.

wonkaticket · #9 07-26-2014, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texxxx

John
As a business owner for over 30 years, I totally believe in tar and feathering people that knowingly dont pay there bills. Mistakes happen but it is had to call this a mistake by Troy.

Bruce as fellow business owner I respectfully disagree.

I fail to see any value in airing dirty laundry or internal drama publicly. I like the board and respect Leon's rules and it's his place now. However that doesn't mean I need to pile on and agree with everything Leon says or does. I think Leon would agree with this.

I do think this could have been handled quietly and off the board with the same results or better results. In the end it's not my board and not my business so Leon can do as he pleases, just added an outside view for perspective.

Cheers,

John

JasonD08 · #10 07-26-2014, 03:25 PM

+1 to what John just said. Personal issues should be handled privately and not unfairly poured over a forum you have total control of. While I feel it is appropriate to out someone who may be in danger of hurting others (in warning) either financially or physically, this was a personal business transaction and should not have been charged up publicly.

Jason

pencil1974 · #11 07-26-2014, 03:26 PM

Yeah I agree with Wonka on this one. As a business owner myself too we are usually paid 30-60 days after our designs and ads have already been delivered. I guess since its a few hundred dollars I just look at that as too small of potatoes to get in a huffing match over. Just my opinion.

wonkaticket · #12 07-26-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pencil1974

Yeah I agree with Wonka on this one. As a business owner myself too we are usually paid 30-60 days after our designs and ads have already been delivered. I guess since its a few hundred dollars I just look at that as too small of potatoes to get in a huffing match over. Just my opinion.

Brad, you've got to come work for me! I'll pay you in cards.

Right now I work with the biggest names in retail.....oh how I would love to be paid in 30-60 days.

Peter_Spaeth · #13 07-26-2014, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

However that doesn't mean I need to pile on and agree with everything Leon says or does. I think Leon would agree with this.
Cheers,

John

So you disagree with him and he agrees with you? This is getting too metaphysical for me.

wonkaticket · #14 07-26-2014, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So you disagree with him and he agrees with you? This is getting too metaphysical for me.

I know deep right?

Leon · #15 07-26-2014, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Well shit Leon, if I'd known you were stopping in my Podunk hometown I would have bought dinner or least scotch.

Steve
My wife says you don't know Podunk, she is from Podunk. Her town has one stop light.

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