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Old 08-11-2014, 05:49 PM
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Obstructing while 'cooperating'; unreal. Nixonian arrogance.
Ah yes, the old it's not illegal if I do it defense. Never really caught on--imagine that.
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I assume we got this link off Peter Nash's website I'm sure he reported on this first.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/arti...ed-to-fbi-raid

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The PSA 8 Wagner gets a lot of press about being altered... I had no idea about the PSA 6 Plank that is mentioned in the article.

Was this a well known fraud card also and I just missed it or is this a new revelation?

Was the alteration trimming like the Wagner?

We know the owner of the Wagner has said he won't do anything about the Wagner, but now the Plank has come out also could this hurt PSA in the long run that two major cards are now admitted trimmed cards in PSA numbered holders?
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The PSA 8 Wagner gets a lot of press about being altered... I had no idea about the PSA 6 Plank that is mentioned in the article.

Was this a well known fraud card also and I just missed it or is this a new revelation?

Was the alteration trimming like the Wagner?

We know the owner of the Wagner has said he won't do anything about the Wagner, but now the Plank has come out also could this hurt PSA in the long run that two major cards are now admitted trimmed cards in PSA numbered holders?
Andy what article are you referring to that mentions the Plank?
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Andy what article are you referring to that mentions the Plank?
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I assume we got this link off Peter Nash's website I'm sure he reported on this first.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/arti...-raid?page=all

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Allen's plea agreement included acknowledgment of shill bidding to artificially inflate bidding and detailed three instances of fraud:
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The sale in 2004 of a T206 Eddie Plank baseball card for $51,518 without disclosing that it has been altered in a way that would lower its market value.
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Thanks, I didn't see that one.
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The PSA 8 Wagner gets a lot of press about being altered... I had no idea about the PSA 6 Plank that is mentioned in the article.

Was this a well known fraud card also and I just missed it or is this a new revelation?

Was the alteration trimming like the Wagner?

We know the owner of the Wagner has said he won't do anything about the Wagner, but now the Plank has come out also could this hurt PSA in the long run that two major cards are now admitted trimmed cards in PSA numbered holders?
Yes - there's another black-eye for PSA and this Plank card and the Wagner are probably only the tip of the iceberg. I wonder what's become of this Plank PSA 6?
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Yes - there's another black-eye for PSA and this Plank card and the Wagner are probably only the tip of the iceberg. I wonder what's become of this Plank PSA 6?
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