Mantle Ball - UDA vs PSA 9

[packs]

I don't think so. It's natural toning. I don't know what causes it, but it's something that naturally happens. Probably influenced by sunlight, but I don't think it's only sunlight.

Eddie Mathews

Lee Smith

Yaz

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't think so. It's natural toning. I don't know what causes it, but it's something that naturally happens. Probably influenced by sunlight, but I don't think it's only sunlight.

Eddie Mathews

Lee Smith

Yaz

The first and third one look like game use or batting practice use.

No excuse for the Lee Smith ball - looks like it must be some sort of impurity in the leather or the yellowing you describe, from just sitting around exposed.

But I really don't know - I actually had a third ball that I got signed in 1973, and it also looks pristine, although I gave it to my brother last year. So perhaps I've been lucky, but my experience is that as long as you aren't handling them a lot (when I was a kid, I even handled these quite a bit, with no ill effects over time), and they were fresh out of a box to begin with, you don't get the yellowing/browning you are describing.

Does anyone have a ball that was never rubbed up or otherwise handled other than for signing and occasional viewing, that turned yellow or brown in areas?

[packs]

I have plenty, just none on hand for a photo. I highly doubt they're game used or practice used as they both have inscriptions and were likely signed at a show.

It's just something that happens. The UDA ball mentioned in the original post is also noted as toned. I would assume that was a brand new ball when signed.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by packs

I have plenty, just none on hand for a photo. I highly doubt they're game used or practice used as they both have inscriptions and were likely signed at a show.

I'm asking for examples that you have owned for the entire period, not ones that you bought that you are making assumptions about to support your thinking.

I could be totally wrong about this, but I would like to see some real examples from forum members. So far, I'm the only one who has any, and I have three pristine 40+ year old examples. One was a very cheap (but leather) ball I bought at a drugstore, another was a more expensive, but still cheap, ball that I bought at the drugstore, and the third is an official NL ball.

[Runscott]

But you could be a lot younger than me, which makes my request unfair, unless you have 'younger' balls that have yellowed Anyone else?

[packs]

What do you mean by real examples? The UDA ball is described as toned. Why would it have been anything other than a new ball when signed?

It is a common occurrence.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by packs

What do you mean by real examples? The UDA ball is described as toned. Why would it have been anything other than a new ball when signed?

This topic has been discussed before. It is a common occurrence.

Okay, you win the discussion. If you just wanted to make a declaration and have everyone shut up and listen, you should have given us a hint.

As usual, you have ignored anything in the discussion that doesn't support your point of view. If you would have an open mind every now and then, you might learn something.

Bye.