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Old 11-12-2014, 02:14 PM
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Just another example of the arbitrariness inherent in grading. I will never understand the wide disparities in value at the higher grades.
Because for some people collecting is a competitive endeavor.
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:46 PM
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Beautiful card! I would buy the 4 all day, every day and never look back. Nice centering also.

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Old 11-12-2014, 07:37 PM
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Just on the talk about the possible trimming....Whenever I buy an expensive card now I find myself hand-wringing and half convinced I have been ripped off if something seems a little amiss...is there any sort of standard tolerance PSA uses for mimimum size? I just got a PSA 8 65 Morgan that is nicely centered and otherwise sharp, but by my measurement about 1/64th of an inch shy of 2.5" top to bottom...then I notice the little imperfections in the slab...am I just being paranoid over this fractional length? Were vintage cards typically varying in size by these slight degrees?
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I work for a label company and we abide by an industry standard of +/- 1/64" for size variation, and we supply nation brands with this tolerance. Some apply labels at 1000+ containers per minute so sizing is critical.

I'm sure we cut labels in the same manner as 50 years ago with a guillotine process. We even have programable machines. The +/- tolerance is needed for process variation. You should be good.

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Just on the talk about the possible trimming....Whenever I buy an expensive card now I find myself hand-wringing and half convinced I have been ripped off if something seems a little amiss...is there any sort of standard tolerance PSA uses for mimimum size? I just got a PSA 8 65 Morgan that is nicely centered and otherwise sharp, but by my measurement about 1/64th of an inch shy of 2.5" top to bottom...then I notice the little imperfections in the slab...am I just being paranoid over this fractional length? Were vintage cards typically varying in size by these slight degrees?
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I work for a label company and we abide by an industry standard of +/- 1/64" for size variation, and we supply nation brands with this tolerance. Some apply labels at 1000+ containers per minute so sizing is critical.

I'm sure we cut labels in the same manner as 50 years ago with a guillotine process. We even have programable machines. The +/- tolerance is needed for process variation. You should be good.
Interesting! Thank you for that unique insight, Luis.
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Just on the talk about the possible trimming....Whenever I buy an expensive card now I find myself hand-wringing and half convinced I have been ripped off if something seems a little amiss...is there any sort of standard tolerance PSA uses for mimimum size? I just got a PSA 8 65 Morgan that is nicely centered and otherwise sharp, but by my measurement about 1/64th of an inch shy of 2.5" top to bottom...then I notice the little imperfections in the slab...am I just being paranoid over this fractional length? Were vintage cards typically varying in size by these slight degrees?
If you can even measure something to 1/64 God bless you. There is a fair amount of variability on 65s in my experience building that set. 1/64 would not bother me.
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Yowzers! About as obvious as it gets. I will lay money that this is one card that will never be cracked and resubmitted.
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If you can even measure something to 1/64 God bless you. There is a fair amount of variability on 65s in my experience building that set. 1/64 would not bother me.
My father in law bought me a tremendous tape measure with 64 notches! It is awesome and causes even greater paranoia in this neurotic guy.. Thanks, Peter!
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