Stupidity Rules the Day!!!!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

As mentioned in a couple other threads, the most surprising thing to me is that in deciding throw, they didn't use a hard play action fake to sell the run. Everyone expects run in the situation, and you get any one DB to bite, and someone's wide wide wide open. They could have done so and allowed a TE to sell block and sneak out into the flat (or even a tackle eligible like Gary suggests), or could utilize Wilson's mobilitiy and decisiveness on either a roll or a bootleg with several options to throw, or to keep.

I probably would run there, pass on 3rd down, and do whatever is needed on 4th. As was, they passed, then I'm sure would have run on 3rd and done either on 4th. I don't fault the decision to throw (they likely would have thrown on at least one of 3 downs), as much as the play design/call.

Whats funny is if they score...everyone would be criticizing belichek for not calling a timeout with a minute left..instead he let it tick down to 30 secs...which would of been more than enough time for seahawks to run 3 plays as they had a timeout ....all the pats would of needed would of been a fg to tie the game like green bay did a week earlier...no reason not to call your 3 timeouts if seahawks run ball and are stopped....but..

the irony is...if a timeout was called...I pretty sure seattle ends up running the ball when they have time to think about it on 2nd down..plus another reason they run is they would want ne to burn more timeouts if stopped on a run versus an incomplete pass......

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Whats funny is if they score...everyone would be criticizing belichek for not calling a timeout with a minute left..instead he let it tick down to 30 secs...which would of been more than enough time for seahawks to run 3 plays as they had a timeout ....all the pats would of needed would of been a fg to tie the game like green bay did a week earlier...no reason not to call your 3 timeouts if seahawks run ball and are stopped....but..

the irony is...if a timeout was called...I pretty sure seattle ends up running the ball when they have time to think about it on 2nd down..plus another reason they run is they would want ne to burn more timeouts if stopped on a run versus an incomplete pass......

Yeah, I've said the same thing in other threads, and yes, do think there's a good chance Seattle runs if Belicheck calls TO. You should definitely have called TO in that situation because Seattle wasn't rushed, and if you hold, you're assured to e able to run that minute or less off the clock. But it worked out perfectly.

Not to be lost, Butler made an amazing jump on that play.. Amazing. He sold out completely before the ball's thrown, trusting the scouting/tendencies, etc. That's the play of a lifetime, and he'd already made two amazing plays on that drive.

Separately, did anyone see Baldwin pretend to take his pants off and crap out the ball?? NBC was quick to cut that one out. So classy

[glchen]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Whats funny is if they score...everyone would be criticizing belichek for not calling a timeout with a minute left..instead he let it tick down to 30 secs...which would of been more than enough time for seahawks to run 3 plays as they had a timeout ....all the pats would of needed would of been a fg to tie the game like green bay did a week earlier...no reason not to call your 3 timeouts if seahawks run ball and are stopped....but..

the irony is...if a timeout was called...I pretty sure seattle ends up running the ball when they have time to think about it on 2nd down..plus another reason they run is they would want ne to burn more timeouts if stopped on a run versus an incomplete pass......

Yea, I completely agree here. As the play was happening, I was thinking that Belichick was making a major mistake and not calling a timeout. If the Seahawks had scored there, then Brady would have had less than 30 seconds to try to get into field goal range, very tough for even him, when they could have given him a whole minute which would have been a decent amount of time since they had timeouts also. Then we could have been debating Belichick's brain cramp instead of Carroll's. And I also agree that if NE calls a TO, the Seahawks probably would have realized what a crazy mistake they were thinking of trying to do a pass play there, and probably would have changed it to a run or at least a better designed pass play.