PSA Grading at its best

wilkiebaby11 · #1 02-13-2015, 09:56 AM

wrong section... but i'll comment!
There even seems to be a slight wrinkle on the left side between the Mickey and the brim of the hat. This had to have been placed in the wrong holder completely!

This card is cert #23994673
...Next in line is #23994674 and it's a 58 Mantle PSA 8

PSA had to have accidentally printed up 2 PSA 8's instead of an 8 and a 4, which is what this card should be!

TISK TISK

bn2cardz · #2 02-13-2015, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wilkiebaby11

wrong section... but i'll comment!
There even seems to be a slight wrinle on the left side between the Mickey and the brim of the hat. This had to have been placed in the wrong holder completely!

I too saw that wrinkle. I didn't know if I was just seeing a hair, but it really does look like a wrinkle. Also the corners are soft. Either PSA messed up big or someone switched the card.

jcc6252 · #3 02-13-2015, 10:06 AM

Steve, awesome detective work, I think you unearthed the problem! Now the question is: If you notified Probstein, would they have enough integrity to pull the card and send it back to PSA to get it corrected?

cammb · #4 02-13-2015, 10:23 AM

What do those bidders see that we don't. The answer? The holder, not the card.

Hammerin'Hank · #5 02-13-2015, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jcc6252

Steve, awesome detective work, I think you unearthed the problem! Now the question is: If you notified Probstein, would they have enough integrity to pull the card and send it back to PSA to get it corrected?

Probstein is probably not the owner of the card. Its probably a consignment.

vintagetoppsguy · #6 02-13-2015, 10:48 AM

The bottom right corner is really bad (you can really tell from the back scan). The cards is a PSA 4 O/C in my opinion.

Cowboy Fan · #7 02-13-2015, 11:06 AM

I submitted BLAZING 1972's and they came back 6 or 7 so yea this kinda pisses me off

pclpads · #8 02-13-2015, 11:17 AM

Wow! Just Wow! Rookie grader . . . first day on the job . . . first card graded.

Cowboy Fan · #9 02-13-2015, 11:18 AM

I just posted it on CU forum....Anybody wanna bet I'm suspended by end of day?

Cowboy Fan · #10 02-13-2015, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jcc6252

Steve, awesome detective work, I think you unearthed the problem! Now the question is: If you notified Probstein, would they have enough integrity to pull the card and send it back to PSA to get it corrected?

I messaged him asking that very thing. I'll post if he replies.

Bill Stair

wilkiebaby11 · #11 02-13-2015, 11:50 AM

no need to read twice....

wilkiebaby11 · #12 02-13-2015, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wilkiebaby11

I dont think it was a mix up, where an 8 is now in a 4 holder and a 4 is in this 8 holder. I'm assuming that the two cards were from the same submission, that seems safe to assume. I am guessing that the grader accidentally wrote down or typed in the system 8 twice before the labels being printed off ...or... they looked at the same Mantle twice and graded "both" as an 8, not ever seeing the more obviously lower grade one.

In the end, I'm trying to chalk this up to a clerical mistake, not a mistake in that the grade actually think that this is worthy of an 8.

That's why I found the fact that two Mantles were graded back to back an important piece of this puzzle.

Foot in mouth.... I obviously took it upon myself to type in the incorrect numbers like I was assuming the grader did... Two Mantles were not submitted.

I'm wrong in that aspect, though the 23994673 which is actually a TANNER is an 8, so maybe the grader accidentally marked the Mantle incorrectly. O well. I dont know why I am defending PSA...

vintagetoppsguy · #13 02-13-2015, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wilkiebaby11

they looked at the same Mantle twice and graded "both" as an 8, not ever seeing the more obviously lower grade one.

In the end, I'm trying to chalk this up to a clerical mistake, not a mistake in that the grade actually think that this is worthy of an 8.

That's why I found the fact that two Mantles were graded back to back an important piece of this puzzle.

Steve, where do you see two Mantles? The cert #s do not show two Mantles.

Edit: NM, I just saw your post right before mine.

Cowboy Fan · #14 02-13-2015, 12:08 PM

Here is the reply I got when asking the seller if they were going to pull the auction as it is grossly and incorrectly graded.

"we sell 23,000 auctions a month,,,,if its graded, then we sell it as is"

Guess the seller cares more for the $$$$ than his integrity in the hobby...Sad.

Bill Stair

vintagetoppsguy · #15 02-13-2015, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wilkiebaby11

This card is cert #23994673
...Next in line is #23994674 and it's a 58 Mantle PSA 8

PSA had to have accidentally printed up 2 PSA 8's instead of an 8 and a 4, which is what this card should be!

TISK TISK

The fact that the previous card (23994673) is an 8 is irrelevant. The next card after the Mantle is a PSA 7 (23994675).

Here is a list of the 2 cards before and after the Mantle.

23994672 - BUD BYERLY - PSA 7
23994673 - CHUCK TANNER - PSA 8
23994674 - MICKEY MANTLE - PSA 8
23994675 - LINDY McDANIEL - PSA 7
23994676 - BOB KEEGAN - PSA 8

I don't understand your point of a mix up. Which card was Mantle mixed up with???

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