T206 Bates Variation?

[jhs5120]

I don't think a smidge of glue at the center of the card (on the back) would completely remove all red from the uniform, bat, sky, etc.

Look at the hat, there is no way that was done by fading.

[sb1]

The glue is only the telling evidence that it was once glued onto a backing and probably displayed in a frame which was subject to years of sunlight.

Normal water soluble glue won't alter the colors on the front, some later "rubber cement" or model glue's will alter the colors.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I don't think a smidge of glue at the center of the card (on the back) would completely remove all red from the uniform, bat, sky, etc.

Look at the hat, there is no way that was done by fading.

What do you see in the hat that makes you think it was not fading?

I am far from an expert on T206 fading but it looks like it was faded from being displayed for several years to me. I say that because of the slight color changes on the entire card that match fading in more modern cards that I am somewhat a expert(LOL) on.

[Laxcat]

I like the arguments on both sides. I think I'm going to try and settle it. I've only used PSA as a TPG. Is there any company that could confirm or deny if the red pass ever existed?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Laxcat

I like the arguments on both sides. I think I'm going to try and settle it. I've only used PSA as a TPG. Is there any company that could confirm or deny if the red pass ever existed?

Send me a 1200dpi or higher resolution scan of both cards beside each other and I can more than likely tell you.

Will pm you my email.

[Laxcat]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Send me a 1200dpi or higher resolution scan of both cards beside each other and I can more than likely tell you.

Will pm you my email.

I will get on it as soon as I can. I'm not very techie but I'll figure it out.

[Jantz]

So glue removes red ink off of the front of a card, but not the back?

[Tyler]

Disclaimer: Not an expert.

Clearly looks like it missed the red ink application.

Value: Whatever someone deems appropriate. For me, not much. For some, maybe a lot?

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by Jantz

So glue removes red ink off of the front of a card, but not the back?

That's right, if there's any glue on the back of a card it will evaporate all the red ink from only the front of the card.

[atx840]

There are several great threads about how the reds can fade on the T206s, this display likely had adhesive on the cards but from the b/w pictures looks like they were prominently displayed across from a window. I bet several of these could be slabbed as missing red.

http://mar12.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=43886

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...itemid%3D43886