1900s Silver Figural Baseball Music Box

[Shoeless Moe]

So are these definitely then from the 40's/50's?

Were any of these from the early 1900's as advertised by SCP, Legendary (I can't imagine they would lie), 22K-30K......or were American Memorabilia & Hunts correct and the more realistic value is closer to their 1000-2000?

That's such a big difference. And for the couple that paid those high prices, not like it matters to someone who could afford to spend 20/30K on a music box but did they buy something incorrectly advertised? Caveat Emptor as Mr Brady would say. Was it the 1900 dating in their listings that caused the prices to skyrocket? The SCP winner just last month might have a huge beef, if their's just plummeted 20K in less then a month.

Bob you might be lucky on another front, that you were runner up and didn't shell out 15-16K on an item worth less than that.....but is it still your white whale or off-white if none of these are early 1900? Still a great item, but I'm curious.

[bobfreedman]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

So are these definitely then from the 40's/50's?

Were any of these from the early 1900's as advertised by SCP, Legendary (I can't imagine they would lie), 22K-30K......or were American Memorabilia & Hunts correct and the more realistic value is closer to their 1000-2000?

That's such a big difference. And for the couple that paid those high prices, not like it matters to someone who could afford to spend 20/30K on a music box but did they buy something incorrectly advertised? Caveat Emptor as Mr Brady would say.

Bob you might be lucky on 2 fronts, one you were runner up and didn't shell out 15-16K on an item worth less than that, and 2 that you got a deal and your white whale.....but is your white whale off white if none of these are early 1900?

Paul, I had the same conversation with another board member about getting it for $2300 vs. $15k and above. Regardless the piece is gorgeous and while some of the shine may have come off of the purchase, I am very happy with my purchase and have no regrets (the story would not have been the same had I paid $15k+ for it).

I do believe that the pieces are rare and still in very high demand that they still will bring strong prices in the future.

[Shoeless Moe]

http://www.100percentauthentic.com/C...E--77049/77049


$242????

[bobfreedman]

That does not look like the one I purchased

[Shoeless Moe]

So is possible these were made at 2 different time frames, 2 different companies?

[bobfreedman]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

So is possible these were made at 2 different time frames, 2 different companies?

I believe that is very possible, the one for $242 looks smaller and generally cheaper IMHO

[Shoeless Moe]

That make more sense that there is an older more expensive version and a newer (40's/50's) knockoff version, still worth a grand or 2, but looks like yours is of the nicer version.

[murphusa]

Boy are you guys tough.

Remember what I said before, no two are alike they were hand etched

In the last 20 years only 6 examples have come to puBlic sale

Hunt was the first to offer that I can find and theirs was the one from the Wrigley family or so they say because it has a W on the home plate section. It sold for $9500

Hunt then sold a different one for $8500. This one was then resold for $13,145 at Legendary in 8/11
It was also sold again last month for $22,000

Hunt also sold another for $6,500 which was different than all the others as the home plate was engraved

The one that sold for $1011 with a $242 estimate from an authenticator was the smaller version made inn the 50's. I know this because the movement has the same turners as other thorns boxes from the 50's

The $26,290 one with the player is also a 40's style, again based on the music box winder

Bob great buy the other night was different from all the others. It is the larger size. Due to the movements winder it was made in the 40's as we're all the above except for the 1011 example.

In my opinion, he stole it as we say. This example is in the same class as the $22,000 and the $26,000 boxes.

In a major auction it is my opinion that he would equal those prices.