T206 / Old Judge pack question

MW1 · #1 06-07-2015, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

To find an unopened pack is pretty rare. Leon is right, Alan Rosen had a pack that was found in the mid-1990s that was unopened. It was opened at a show and had a rare card inside(Alcott-Mansfields). The card was heavily tobacco stained on the back, but SGC unexplainably gave it an SGC96 grade, I believe. The pack contained an N173 redemption list and an Goodwin & Co coupon, in addition to the card.
Opened Old Judge packs are not that scarce. The slabbed one that Joe has posted a picture of was an opened pack.

The N172 Alcott was graded a 98 by SGC but it was the old label...before Derek and Lee were the principal graders.

I don't have a scan of the back of the card but I don't recall it being heavily stained. Moderately might be a better word. The corners were pretty sharp. It sold in August of 2002 for $6910. I don't have a record of any sales after that. All things considered, a pretty rare card in that grade.

Leon · #2 06-08-2015, 09:25 AM

If I remember correctly that card has one small circular type stain on the back. I don't think you can get a more clear image on a card. It is gorgeous, thanks for posting it MW....

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Originally Posted by MW1

The N172 Alcott was graded a 98 by SGC but it was the old label...before Derek and Lee were the principal graders.

I don't have a scan of the back of the card but I don't recall it being heavily stained. Moderately might be a better word. The corners were pretty sharp. It sold in August of 2002 for $6910. I don't have a record of any sales after that. All things considered, a pretty rare card in that grade.

oldjudge · #3 06-08-2015, 12:48 PM

The whole back of the card was brown from sitting close to cigarettes for over 100 years. I am very familiar with the card.

Leon · #4 06-08-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

The whole back of the card was brown from sitting close to cigarettes for over 100 years. I am very familiar with the card.

Thanks Jay...I must have been thinking about a different card.

packs · #5 06-08-2015, 01:56 PM

The designation on that flip has always bothered me. Every N172 was taken from a pack. Seems superfluous.

kkkkandp · #6 06-08-2015, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

The designation on that flip has always bothered me. Every N172 was taken from a pack. Seems superfluous.

It would make more sense in context, as in stating the year in which it was removed.

That having been said, I don't think that makes said card any more valuable. It's just an interesting footnote.

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