Show...me...your print variations!

[ALR-bishop]

The Roe variation, and the similar Erskine variation in the same set, are listed in the SCD Standard Catalog and discussed by Bob Lemke on his Blog. They seem to involve errant autos from cards above on the sheets they were on

Green print is over the black mark scribble which is dull. I'm glad I saved it

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[JollyElm]

Are you certain the black is legitimately under the green text?? With the relative 'slickness' of the green ink as compared to the super absorbency of the dull, non-coated cardboard, it seems likely the card was written on by a kid with a magic marker and it isn't some bizarre printing variation. That would account for the black marker being murky on top of the green words. Occam's razor and all that. Plus, there was no black ink (black plate) involved in the printing of 1975 Topps backs.

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Are you certain the black is legitimately under the green text?? With the relative 'slickness' of the green ink as compared to the super absorbency of the dull, non-coated cardboard, it seems likely the card was written on by a kid with a magic marker and it isn't some bizarre printing variation. That would account for the black marker being murky on top of the green words. Occam's razor and all that. Plus, there was no black ink (black plate) involved in the printing of 1975 Topps backs.

I did a test on a 75 common card with a black marker, the ink covered the letters.Also when you look at the Gibson card at different angles under a bright light with a 10x jewelers loupe the mark is behind the green letters

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by rgpete

I did a test on a 75 common card with a black marker, the ink covered the letters.Also when you look at the Gibson card at different angles under a bright light with a 10x jewelers loupe the mark is behind the green letters

I have found that a 1200dpi or better scan works much better than a small 10X loupe. Also compare the black ink on the back of your card to the black ink on the front of another 75 Gibson card under a cfl, halogen, and black light to make sure the ink reacts the same under those 3 different light sources. Some swear by only black lights, I find them to be the least useful unless the card was altered by a modern marker/ink.

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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by rgpete

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Scan quality is greatly reduced when posting. Do you have a cfl bulb in a dark room? If so go in there and hold the front of the card right by the bulb and tilt it back and forth and notice how the black is still a nice dark black. Now do the same with the black on the back. The blacks front/back should look EXACTLY the same when doing this. Most black markers will look more greyish than dark black when you do this.

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[ALR-bishop]

Somewhere here there is a thread with the same issue involving a different card. If I can remember the card I will try to find the thread