PWCC green cobb psa 5.5 going through the roof

pkaufman · #1 11-08-2015, 07:04 PM

Total SHILL marketplace.......check out the bidder percentages and see for yourself.

CMIZ5290 · #2 11-08-2015, 07:08 PM

card ended at almost $16k....Does anybody need a PSA 8 with a qualifier?

Beastmode · #3 11-09-2015, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pkaufman

Total SHILL marketplace.......check out the bidder percentages and see for yourself.

I hear this a lot on both forums, but IMO, not much relevance for shilling by looking at % of bids. I also have a very high percent with PWCC, but that's because they have the cards I want, and I can snipe, and I don't have to stay up until 3:00 AM while an auction closes three different times.

calvindog · #4 11-10-2015, 04:17 AM

They have the cards you want? Yeah, they have such an eclectic selection of cards found nowhere else on eBay, I can understand how you could mainly bid on their auctions; tough to find a PSA 5 1953 Topps Mantle any place else. As for transparency, Brent comes onto Net 54, gets caught in lies, leaves. His auctions are filled with fraud. Very transparent. Transparency really helps.

1952boyntoncollector · #5 11-10-2015, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

They have the cards you want? Yeah, they have such an eclectic selection of cards found nowhere else on eBay, I can understand how you could mainly bid on their auctions; tough to find a PSA 5 1953 Topps Mantle any place else. As for transparency, Brent comes onto Net 54, gets caught in lies, leaves. His auctions are filled with fraud. Very transparent. Transparency really helps.

well you can find many of the same graded cards on ebay with BIN's that 90% of the time are for sale and/or the seller wants more than what they would sell for at a PWCC auction..so yeah you can buy away with BINs and avoid being shilled up to amount less than you will pay with BIN

bobbyw8469 · #6 11-10-2015, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

well you can find many of the same graded cards on ebay with BIN's that 90% of the time are for sale and/or the seller wants more than what they would sell for at a PWCC auction..so yeah you can buy away with BINs and avoid being shilled up to amount less than you will pay with BIN

There are also several other sellers that run .99 cent auctions that DO NOT get the PWCC run-up. I know that for a fact - I am one of them.

1952boyntoncollector · #7 11-10-2015, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

There are also several other sellers that run .99 cent auctions that DO NOT get the PWCC run-up. I know that for a fact - I am one of them.

right but you don't sell psa 5.5 green cobbs and psa 7 Aarons 4 or 5 times a year for example..you do see them on BIN, at least the Aarons from time to time..usually asking for more than the final hammer on a PWCC auction... Plus you do consign to PWCC your pricier cards so not sure why are talking down PWCC when you use them yourself like those T206 HOFs you couldn't sell on net54 ..

bobbyw8469 · #8 11-10-2015, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right but you don't sell psa 5.5 green cobbs and psa 7 Aarons 4 or 5 times a year for example..you do see them on BIN, at least the Aarons from time to time..usually asking for more than the final hammer on a PWCC auction... Plus you do consign to PWCC your pricier cards so not sure why are talking down PWCC when you use them yourself like those T206 HOFs you couldn't sell on net54 ..

I'm not talking them down. I like Brent. I think he runs a top notch organization. People are stating facts though. Some of the auction results seem a little odd. Is it a crime to speak the truth? State facts?

bobbyw8469 · #9 11-10-2015, 07:23 AM

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tough to find a PSA 5 1953 Topps Mantle any place else.

LOL....How about the rare 1968 Roberto Clemente PSA 4? Yea - I never got that either. There are many sellers on Ebay with good cards. Yet don't seem to get the run-up that PWCC does. Not that I'm knocking it. I'm actually rather envious.

calvindog · #10 11-10-2015, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

LOL....How about the rare 1968 Roberto Clemente PSA 4? Yea - I never got that either. There are many sellers on Ebay with good cards. Yet don't seem to get the run-up that PWCC does. Not that I'm knocking it. I'm actually rather envious.

Everyone was envious of Mastro too. And many on Net 54 defended them from the pre-investigation stage, through indictment and sentencing. How else do you think fraudsters can be so successful ripping people off so blatantly in this hobby? It's not because the average collector is highly intelligent.

Leon · #11 11-10-2015, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

Everyone was envious of Mastro too. And many on Net 54 defended them from the pre-investigation stage, through indictment and sentencing. How else do you think fraudsters can be so successful ripping people off so blatantly in this hobby? It's not because the average collector is highly intelligent.

Everyone was envious of Madoff too. From what I recall there wasn't as much defending of Mastro and gang as there was a call to allow justice to work. That is the same as you defending the people you do. No different.

PS.....I am not defending some bidders and their issues in the current auctions being talked about.

calvindog · #12 11-10-2015, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Everyone was envious of Madoff too. From what I recall there wasn't as much defending of Mastro and gang as there was a call to allow justice to work. That is the same as you defending the people you do. No different.

It couldn't be more different, actually, again. My motives in defending people are based on the oath I take to assist people in asserting their constitutional rights. People defended Mastro for many other reasons.

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