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JC was already known as one of the Mastro shillers. The extent was not known though. I wonder who Jay Dyer is?
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But he isn't listed as a Shiller at all on the list...only a consignor.
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... http://imageevent.com/derekgranger Working on the following: HOF "Earliest" Collection (Ideal - Indiv): 250/346 (72.3%) 1914 T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps......: 116/119 (97.5%) Completed: 1911 T332 Helmar Stamps (180/180) 1923 V100 Willard's Chocolate (180/180) |
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to think the consignor was unaware of the shilling. Think that could only happen if the house had access to a maximum bid - which they apparently did - so I guess it's possible :-) Besides, I think husband of tammy copped to it.......
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And I missed those old posts from husbandoftammy where he fessed up. I was off the Net54 site for a long stretch during that timeframe.
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... http://imageevent.com/derekgranger Working on the following: HOF "Earliest" Collection (Ideal - Indiv): 250/346 (72.3%) 1914 T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps......: 116/119 (97.5%) Completed: 1911 T332 Helmar Stamps (180/180) 1923 V100 Willard's Chocolate (180/180) |
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I ran across this article from 26 years ago while googling some of the names on the list...
http://articles.philly.com/1989-10-1...baseball-cards One of the most revealing moments of the convention came at a seminar on ethics. In a convention that attracted 382 dealers and more than 37,000 collectors, eight people showed up to discuss moral issues. "That pretty much tells you all you need to know about the ethics of this business," said dealer Stan Marks of Scottsdale, Ariz. "Nobody gives a damn."
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Who's keeping a tally:
Peter Calderon from Heritage PSA's "Board of Experts" + Authenticators Dave Forman - Owner of SGC Kevin Keating of Quality Autographs Ken Goldin from Goldin Auctions TJ Schwartz of SCD Kevin Struss of Baseball Rarities other Net54 Members (you know who you are) Events leading up to "the list"... REA president retires; SGC moves to Florida; Leon sells collection Okay, the first and last ones are probably a stretch...just sayin'
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... http://imageevent.com/derekgranger Working on the following: HOF "Earliest" Collection (Ideal - Indiv): 250/346 (72.3%) 1914 T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps......: 116/119 (97.5%) Completed: 1911 T332 Helmar Stamps (180/180) 1923 V100 Willard's Chocolate (180/180) Last edited by h2oya311; 01-29-2016 at 10:53 AM. |
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I really see it as a conflict of interest for a grader to grade a card if that grader owns the same type of card and grade.. if POP is 1 on a card at a SGC 8 and carries a $1000+ price...I wouldn't want to see another of those cards achieve a SGC 8 for example which would double the POP and lower the value of my own card... |
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I do not think it will effect clct collectors universe stock. It will not impact the core business of submissions or the registry. SGC is a different story. Anyone on the fence about which grader to use will move away from them. Maybe a small boost for beckett. The real losers will be the individual auctions involved and already mentioned.
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Na
Last edited by ezez420; 03-15-2016 at 08:14 PM. |
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He's all over the document listed as both a consignor and shiller |
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http://www.psacard.com/Experts/ If you google him you will see he has had some controversy/mistaken authentications. |
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I know most of you guys have thousands, maybe hundereds of thousands tied up in your collection. But this hits us lower grade collectors too. My $100 card is the same as your $1000 when you consider expendable income. Personally, the SGC news bothers me most. They are who I use (I have a T206 sub there now). I'm kinda rattled with all this information that has come to light. And, ironically, when I pulled this page up, an ad that said "Trust SGC" was at the top. ![]() To the two that has come forward and told their story, I thank you. What you did was unethical, but you aren't running from it. But, from what I've read, it's like being shown pictures of your wife in bed with another man, and being told: I can explain. It's not what it looks like. It didn't mean anything. Wrong is wrong and you have to pay the consequence. Whatever that turns out to be. |
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You'll be over all this in a month. |
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An xls version of the Govt's Exhibit for those looking for an easier format
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Items for sale or trade here UPDATED 3-16-18 Last edited by conor912; 01-29-2016 at 04:06 PM. |
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And I've now seen information that his shill bidder possibly works for another auction house.
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N. & Cent. Fla/S. Ga Rep: Jay Dyer Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 01-29-2016 at 10:15 AM. |
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Peter, Greg...it's not an easy thing to do to admit that you were wrong and messed up. I don't know either one of you, but I appreciate you guys coming forward and at least explaining your side of the story. Would have been very easy to just lay low.
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