PWCC Auction

[kmac32]

I got 1 T205 but I didn't try very hard as I got 9 cards earlier on Saturday in Long Beach and 2 elsewhere online.

[itjclarke]

Was watching a few closely, but got blown out of the water early on all. Hoping they just regularly strong PWCC prices more so than trends or else I may never get my hands on a couple I really want.

Wasn't interested in this one, but watched it. Clearly a whiff by PSA, and not sure the buyer caught it either... but credit to PWCC for pointing it out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...p2047675.l2557

[iwantitiwinit]

Honestly, I don't even look at the PWCC offered cards on ebay I simply skim over them since I feel I can get a similar card for only 75% of what it would cost me to buy them thru PWCC. Am I alone in this? Why would I chose to pay more.

[glynparson]

From pwcc. They do have a good following but occasionally things slip through the cracks like any other auction. Generally though they do get strong prices.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by glynparson

From pwcc. They do have a good following but occasionally things slip through the cracks like any other auction. Generally though they do get strong prices.

right and you not have to worry about buyers not paying etc when you consign, everyone is saying on this thread that the prices they get are generally strong, some say they they pay 75% elsewhere because PWCC is so strong with prices...seems like a win win for sellers

[savedfrommyspokes]

From last evening.....who would have guessed this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-A...oAAOSwJb9Wq7xG

Two last second bids and the item more than tripled in value and sold for $350 more than the 3rd highest bid

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

From last evening.....who would have guessed this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-A...oAAOSwJb9Wq7xG

Two last second bids and the item more than tripled in value and sold for $350 more than the 3rd highest bid

yeah there is huge price ranges on the rosen but 250-350 is the range without those 2 over market bidders..

even in 1954 topps high grade cards there were big prices..

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by glynparson

From pwcc. They do have a good following but occasionally things slip through the cracks like any other auction. Generally though they do get strong prices.

The cards that slip through the cracks in the PWCC auctions are the ones that honest sellers typically consign. Since I don't shill the stuff I consign to PWCC, you can sometimes get a bargain. Hello people!!! Read the other thread and WAKE UP!!

edited to add that some of my consignments did sell for great prices (so there is certainly a PWCC following)...but it's mostly for the PSA or set-building type cards...the obscure stuff (the stuff that I like) does slip through the cracks sometimes. But if a PWCC auction has the words "PSA" in the item description, you might as well expect to pay 20-40% more than the guy who consigned the card after purchasing it on eBay less than three months prior.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

The cards that slip through the cracks in the PWCC auctions are the ones that honest sellers typically consign. Since I don't shill the stuff I consign to PWCC, you can sometimes get a bargain. Hello people!!! Read the other thread and WAKE UP!!

edited to add that some of my consignments did sell for great prices (so there is certainly a PWCC following)...but it's mostly for the PSA or set-building type cards...the obscure stuff (the stuff that I like) does slip through the cracks sometimes. But if a PWCC auction has the words "PSA" in the item description, you might as well expect to pay 20-40% more than the guy who consigned the card after purchasing it on eBay less than three months prior.

HONESTLY...it's like noone seems to care about PWCC's history?!?!? Keep wearing those blinders folks...after all cardboard trumps all!

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

HONESTLY...it's like noone seems to care about PWCC's history?!?!? Keep wearing those blinders folks...after all cardboard trumps all!

20-40% markup on EVERY card within a 3-month period??? I guess I can just quit my job, win cards on Ebay from normal/other sellers, and just consign with PWCC, sit back and collect 30%??? Sounds good!

[Jantz]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

HONESTLY...it's like noone seems to care about PWCC's history?!?!? Keep wearing those blinders folks...after all cardboard trumps all!

Pete

Just go bang your head against a brick wall. Trust me, it will be less painful!

[bbcardzman]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

Honestly, I don't even look at the PWCC offered cards on ebay I simply skim over them since I feel I can get a similar card for only 75% of what it would cost me to buy them thru PWCC. Am I alone in this? Why would I chose to pay more.

+1 Agreed

[Touch'EmAll]

Yes, I too was looking at the T206's in particular. Both Cobb reds seemed to have those blurry eyes. But the prices were over what I thought they would go for. Nice to see actual eBay auctions getting great prices - these cards do not go up for eBay auction as often as they used to years ago.

The 1952 Topps Mays cards went way high also, whew!

Keep your good stuff, folks. Wait another 10 years and slam dunk great investments.

[CW]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Was watching a few closely, but got blown out of the water early on all. Hoping they just regularly strong PWCC prices more so than trends or else I may never get my hands on a couple I really want.

Wasn't interested in this one, but watched it. Clearly a whiff by PSA, and not sure the buyer caught it either... but credit to PWCC for pointing it out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...p2047675.l2557

Maybe I'm out of touch with what a PSA 4 Cy Young glove shows sells for these days, but the pen marks did not seem to hurt the final price. Crazy.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by CW

Maybe I'm out of touch with what a PSA 4 Cy Young glove shows sells for these days, but the pen marks did not seem to hurt the final price. Crazy.

Pretty strong indeed. It actually recently for $1058 too!! Which also seems really strong for a marked card.

[xplainer]

I'm not a big baller, but this weekend, I stopped bidding on a PWCC card because I felt something wasn't right. I was the top bidder until the last day. Then, out of the blue, someone came in and started bumping my bids. I'd increase my bid, and hour or so later, it was bumped again. Happened three times. So, not auto bids I know.

He has 20% bids with the same seller in the past 12 months. With no wins I can see.

It was a low cost card and I bowed out at 20 bucks. But I felt something is wrong when this dude over bids me by 1.50 every couple of hours.

And in the end, he didn't even win. Closed at 27.50.

I know most of you are in it for big bucks. But this stuff also affects us down toward the low end too.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by xplainer

I'm not a big baller, but this weekend, I stopped bidding on a PWCC card because I felt something wasn't right. I was the top bidder until the last day. Then, out of the blue, someone came in and started bumping my bids. I'd increase my bid, and hour or so later, it was bumped again. Happened three times. So, not auto bids I know.

He has 20% bids with the same seller in the past 12 months. With no wins I can see.

It was a low cost card and I bowed out at 20 bucks. But I felt something is wrong when this dude over bids me by 1.50 every couple of hours.

And in the end, he didn't even win. Closed at 27.50.

I know most of you are in it for big bucks. But this stuff also affects us down toward the low end too.

Maybe he was wondering why you kept bumping him?

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe he was wondering why you kept bumping him?

so it was you!?!?! and yeah! why where you bumping me? ; )

[iwantitiwinit]

Originally Posted by xplainer

I'm not a big baller, but this weekend, I stopped bidding on a PWCC card because I felt something wasn't right. I was the top bidder until the last day. Then, out of the blue, someone came in and started bumping my bids. I'd increase my bid, and hour or so later, it was bumped again. Happened three times. So, not auto bids I know.

He has 20% bids with the same seller in the past 12 months. With no wins I can see.

It was a low cost card and I bowed out at 20 bucks. But I felt something is wrong when this dude over bids me by 1.50 every couple of hours.

And in the end, he didn't even win. Closed at 27.50.

I know most of you are in it for big bucks. But this stuff also affects us down toward the low end too.

I'm not surprised. Again I don't even bother looking at these auctions.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

I'm not surprised. Again I don't even bother looking at these auctions.

the guy that's buying the 1952 Topps Baritromes is in theory a 'legit' buyer...but you don't see me paying $400 for a psa 2...even with the sales history..

past sales to me don't mean much by just looking at how much it sold for..auction price for BIN matters to me...also...I look for unique bidders at certain price points.....a 2 guy bidding war where the winning price is 50% over the third highest bidders high bid also means nothing to me

the artificial inflation is seen as artificial.... im sure if you are smart enough not to bid on 'shilled' auctions then you are smart enough not to fall for artificial sales history....there are many ways to avoid being a victim.......just saying (and I am not excusing fake bidders and undisclosed shilling/reserve etc)

[Touch'EmAll]

I was looking at some high end Aaron's. I even put in a couple of very solid bids, er so I thought - won nothing. On the one hand its nice to see the high prices. But on the other hand, the prices seem a little fishy too high. Just my honest gut feeling. I could be wrong. I suppose look and drool all you want, but watch it, don't go too overboard with your bids.

A good test would be to now list a couple cards that went way high on PWCC with the same prices or say, 5 percent less, with BIN to see if anyone bites.