1980 Topps Rickey Henderson RC PSA 10 or BGS 9.5/10 card for review.

[ashes13]

Its a great looking card. Most really nice 9s are almost impossible to distinguish from 10s in my opinion and from the 10s and 9s I have looked at. In my opinion, you have a better chance of winning the lottery, then PSA giving you a 10 on that card, unless you are an auction house or you do big volume with them. I know it shouldnt matter who the submitter is, but count me in the group who believes it does matter.
I hope I am wrong and you get a 10. Looks like a solid 9, but it wouldnt surprise me if it even came back an 8 or 8.5.

[CTDean]

Originally Posted by ashes13

Its a great looking card. Most really nice 9s are almost impossible to distinguish from 10s in my opinion and from the 10s and 9s I have looked at. In my opinion, you have a better chance of winning the lottery, then PSA giving you a 10 on that card, unless you are an auction house or you do big volume with them. I know it shouldnt matter who the submitter is, but count me in the group who believes it does matter.
I hope I am wrong and you get a 10. Looks like a solid 9, but it wouldnt surprise me if it even came back an 8 or 8.5.

+1 (On it matters who submits the card, even though it shouldn't).

It is a nice card and I would go with PSA. Biggest lottery payout.

[pokerplyr80]

To the part of your question regarding service and fee level I would estimate the value raw. Even though a 10 is worth 30k or whatever it's not a 10 yet. Raw it's worth 100 or 200. Submit accordingly to save on the fees. It's very hard to get a 10 so hope for the best but don't be surprised if it comes back an 8 or 9.

[TheNightmanCometh]

Once pulled a Henderson from a pack of 80's Topps. Card look exactly like that except all the cards had a nick on the bottom right corner. Suffice it to say, I was bummed.

[murphy8276]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

To the part of your question regarding service and fee level I would estimate the value raw. Even though a 10 is worth 30k or whatever it's not a 10 yet. Raw it's worth 100 or 200. Submit accordingly to save on the fees. It's very hard to get a 10 so hope for the best but don't be surprised if it comes back an 8 or 9.

Thanks for answering this. I will send at the $18 level then, but hope for a call back to me accordingly to raise it to $700! (this is what I was told would happen should you hit a goldmine card like this)

Thanks guys for all the support and comments so far. I think PSA is the correct choice, I just had noticed a little more lenience with BGS giving some 9.5's easier than the PSA 10(which is worth a heck of a lot more) so maybe I will try PSA and if it lands a 9 because it is in the middle of 9-10 I will send to BGS afterwards hoping for an upgrade.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by murphy8276

Thanks for answering this. I will send at the $18 level then, but hope for a call back to me accordingly to raise it to $700! (this is what I was told would happen should you hit a goldmine card like this)

Thanks guys for all the support and comments so far. I think PSA is the correct choice, I just had noticed a little more lenience with BGS giving some 9.5's easier than the PSA 10(which is worth a heck of a lot more) so maybe I will try PSA and if it lands a 9 because it is in the middle of 9-10 I will send to BGS afterwards hoping for an upgrade.

I had the same question when I first submitted a raw card to PSA. I was told by PSA if I was lucky enough to hit the "jackpot" and get a 10 on a similar card they would contact me to see if i want to pay for additional insurance in return shipping. They will not charge you for the higher service level.

And yes that card is worth a lot more in a PSA 10 holder than a BGS or BVG 9.5. I would agree that trying for that first is the best strategy. Good luck.

[murphy8276]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I had the same question when I first submitted a raw card to PSA. I was told by PSA if I was lucky enough to hit the "jackpot" and get a 10 on a similar card they would contact me to see if i want to pay for additional insurance in return shipping. They will not charge you for the higher service level.

And yes that card is worth a lot more in a PSA 10 holder than a BGS or BVG 9.5. I would agree that trying for that first is the best strategy. Good luck.

Hmm. Interesting. I would have sworn I asked the same exact question and they told me they would expect the higher service level to be paid. The agent could have been wrong I suppose or maybe misunderstood the difference in service level and shipping insurance. They actually told me the reverse funny enough that you could not increase insurance coverage. lol Your version certainly makes more sense, but I kind of believed them charging $700 had it hot lottery status made sense too as they charge more for higher value cards. The agent then did say to be conservative when sending.

*I will make note that he did tell me that if you send in a Jordan Rc you do have to pay for the grade. Meaning to me that they do expect you to pay for obvious cards when they are sent, but maybe there are exceptions such as a Henderson which jumps 3 service levels between 9 and 10 grades?

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by murphy8276

Hmm. Interesting. I would have sworn I asked the same exact question and they told me they would expect the higher service level to be paid. The agent could have been wrong I suppose or maybe misunderstood the difference in service level and shipping insurance. They actually told me the reverse funny enough that you could not increase insurance coverage. lol Your version certainly makes more sense, but I kind of believed them charging $700 had it hot lottery status made sense too as they charge more for higher value cards. The agent then did say to be conservative when sending.

*I will make note that he did tell me that if you send in a Jordan Rc you do have to pay for the grade. Meaning to me that they do expect you to pay for obvious cards when they are sent, but maybe there are exceptions such as a Henderson which jumps 3 service levels between 9 and 10 grades?

It was a couple of years ago that I asked, and things certainly could have changed since then. But to me, if you paid for 10 day, or 2 week, whatever it is service, and it turns out your card is high grade, it doesn't make sense to retroactively charge a customer for express 1 day service. It does make sense to see if a card that is now worth 1000s or 10s of thousands of dollars should be insured for that amount.

Not everything that a company does makes sense to me though, so you may be right. That just wasn't my understanding.