FS: 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson PSA 5 -

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

'He told me he had an offer to buy immediately after he posted it' So why dont you practice what you preached and wait to see if i had passed. You admit right there that i contacted him first. Funny he didnt mention you until after i agreed to pay asking price.


I had no idea of your contacts with him. . I emailed him from my email off of net54 If the card is no big deal, why give it a second thought?

I posted ill take it to show that i paid listing price and to avoid anyone else making an offer and that was the first time i saw your 'pm sent'. . I had already agreed with him via email earlier as he told you. Maybe you should post ill take it' if you are paying asking price.

As i said, after i bought the card i actually saw your PM when i was posting ill take it and asked him how close did you go to asking price. What did you offer by the way. I assumed you offered less than asking price and then after you saw my ill take it, you told me to get in line because maybe then you offered Asking price.

I also like to post ill take it when i didnt see it listed that the card had sold. I already bought the card. I didnt know PM sent means you have wait in line by the way, even though i didnt see it when i was communicating via email and off the net54 site.

again so the card is no big deal yet you bring this up? I really dont think anyone on net54 thinks what i did was wrong at all.

You cant say get in line and offer asking price after i say 'ill take it' People usually post ill take it takes precedence over ongoing negotiations. Sorry for saying ill take it while you were trying to negotiate to get the card for less. Easy to say know you were willing to go to asking price after the card is sold.

Bottom line- You are in negotiations and not offering asking price, and i pay asking price and this card doesnt matter. Am i really a bad guy for this?


I also dont see why you would put this on my b/s/t thread. The fact i paid asking on that psa 4 jackie which is above VCP that calvindog loves to cite (except for his own cards) does show the respect i have for the card and the reason i wanted to sell my 5 since i got a 4 that would be cheaper to hold

Holy cow....you sure added a whole lot after I was replying.

IF a seller states the first "I'll take it" supercedes all other inquiries or negotiations then by all means "go for it". But if a seller does not state that, then I would offer the common decency to the person who replied before me to get first dibs. That's just me.

Next time I will just say I'll take it because I know you're lurking out there.

Maybe I should have just started my own thread on the main board. I'll do that next time. Thanks for the advice.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

Holy cow....you sure added a whole lot after I was replying.

IF a seller states the first "I'll take it" supercedes all other inquiries or negotiations then by all means "go for it". But if a seller does not state that, then I would offer the common decency to the person who replied before me to get first dibs. That's just me.

Next time I will just say I'll take it because I know you're lurking out there.

Maybe I should have just started my own thread on the main board. I'll do that next time. Thanks for the advice.

Ok, i am the one that contacted him first which you have admitted. Where was the common decency? I contacted him first and paid asking price first. Does anyone on Net54 contend i did anything wrong in this transaction.

[DeanH3]

I didn't say you contacted him first. How can I know that? Only the seller knows that. It just seems wierd that you'd "announce" your "I'll take it" 10 minutes after my PM. Also, How am I supposed to know, "l'll take it" after my PM means, "I've already contacted the seller before you and agreed to pay his asking price before you? I must have missed that in the Jake to Net54 translation guide.

My common decency is if I see someone post PM sent in a BST listing, I'll tell the seller I'm interested if the first person passes. I definitely won't go back to the thread and state, I'll take it", AFTER I have already bought it. I will let the seller inform other interested parties that the card has sold. Just me that's all.

Take all the polls you want. Everybody here can say I'm in the wrong. That's OK with me. It won't change MY mind that it didn't sit well with me.

Look, if you don't want people, like me, to continue to meddle in your BST thread. Then don't keep asking me questions. I'm good with letting this ride off into the sunset.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

I didn't say you contacted him first. How can I know that? Only the seller knows that. It just seems wierd that you'd "announce" your "I'll take it" 10 minutes after my PM. Also, How am I supposed to know, "l'll take it" after my PM means, "I've already contacted the seller before you and agreed to pay his asking price before you? I must have missed that in the Jake to Net54 translation guide.

My common decency is if I see someone post PM sent in a BST listing, I'll tell the seller I'm interested if the first person passes. I definitely won't go back to the thread and state, I'll take it", AFTER I have already bought it. Just me that's all.

Look, if you don't want people, like me, to continue to meddle in your BST thread. Then don't keep asking me questions. I'm good with letting this ride off into the sunset.

I did contact him immediately. He posted an email address, so i didnt need to say 'pm sent' or say anything on the thread. You admitted that he was contacted already on the card. So whoever that was, why didnt you have the common decency to wait which you state you would have done


It was me obviously that contacted him first. You want me to believe you were going to offer asking price but put 'pm sent'

If i can get the seller to tell you that it was me that i contacted him first (which you you seem to question) would you then agree that i did ZERO wrong

I can email him to post that if you wish but if its still not enough for you that I contacted him first then why question whether it was me if it doesnt matter.

I did check the listing after i bought the card. It was a high dollar card and i just was checking the picture again and checking the cert before issuing payment. (i told him before i would be paying within 2 hours) I noticed the listing had not been closed. So i posted ill take it. Since i already bought it i didnt think it was a big deal

If you look at it from my perspective, i think you thought you saw an easy target to criticize but i dont mess with people trying to sell their cards or on transactions. I have fun talking about almost NL no hitters are overrated ( ie Rich Hill) but all of my transactions have runs smoothly and honestly. You never seen anyone chime in on that otherwise. A lot of talk is cheap, when it comes to actually paying and delivering what i promise I dont think anyone will disagree that i am top tier.

I dont think you will argue that im pretty active on this website and that i am into jackie robinson cards. It really isnt a shocker that i jumped on the listing before you

[DeanH3]

Dude, you just don't get it.

I saw the card. I sent the seller a PM. 10 minutes later you state. "I'll take it!"

I didn't hear ANYTHING from the seller until he said someone, not you, contacted him IMMEDIATELY after he posted it. And bought it. My PM was 24 minutes after he posted the listing. So you came into the thread 30 minutes after the thread was posted and 10 minutes after my PM to announce "I'll take it" which to you really means, "I already bought the card 30 minutes ago at asking price". I'm really supposed to understand that.

To me, it meant, man I really want that card. Somebody already sent a PM so I'll yell, "I'll take it" because that means screw anybody who's interested, I yelled, I'll take it" first.

Just wanted to add - fair enough Jake. Maybe you did contact the seller first. I'm just saying your "I'll take it" response 10 later seemed suspicious. Maybe it was just a big misunderstanding. Can we just ride off into the sunset now?



Look Jake. Maybe I'm wrong here. It just didn't feel right to me. Maybe I should have just let it ride and not get involved. Like I said, it has nothing to do with the card. We can agree to disagree and let this fade away.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

Dude, you just don't get it.

I saw the card. I sent the seller a PM. 10 minutes later you state. "I'll take it!"

I didn't hear ANYTHING from the seller until he said someone, not you, contacted him IMMEDIATELY after he posted it. And bought it. My PM was 24 minutes after he posted the listing. So you came into the thread 30 minutes after the thread was posted and 10 minutes after my PM to announce "I'll take it" which to you really means, "I already bought the card 30 minutes ago at asking price". I'm really supposed to understand that.

To me, it meant, man I really want that card. Somebody already sent a PM so I'll yell, "I'll take it" because that means screw anybody who's interested, I yelled, I'll take it" first.

Just wanted to add - fair enough Jake. Maybe you did contact the seller first. I'm just saying your "I'll take it" response 10 later seemed suspicious. Maybe it was just a big misunderstanding. Can we just ride off into the sunset now?



Look Jake. Maybe I'm wrong here. It just didn't feel right to me. Maybe I should have just let it ride and not get involved. Like I said, it has nothing to do with the card. We can agree to disagree and let this fade away.

right you bring this up here where you think im an easy target. You said the guy said it wasnt me? Who was it then? Or did he just not mention anyone by name. I am 100% sure it was me.

You seem to indicate that you were wrong as to the way you were critical of me if i indeed i was the first person to contact him.

Also you are confused as to my 'ill take it' but you cant see why i can be confused that you agreed to pay asking when i later saw the 'pm sent' (i already bought the card when saw that)

I like your posts and have nothing against you. You may of just wanted to pm me your concern than to jump on my b/s/t thread. Also i can email the seller if you wish to confirm I contacted him first.

In addition, if you feel that some of your posts on my b/s/t thread arent that appropriate, you have been civil in your arguments. I am ok with it but rather you did it through pm. But afterall its not like you are calvindog who uses terms like scumbag.

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right you bring this up here where you think im an easy target. You said the guy said it wasnt me? Who was it then? Or did he just not mention anyone by name. I am 100% sure it was me.

You seem to indicate that you were wrong as to the way you were critical of me if i indeed i was the first person to contact him.

Also you are confused as to my 'ill take it' but you cant see why i can be confused that you paid asking when i later saw the 'pm sent' (i already bought the card when saw that)

I like your posts and have nothing against you. You may of just wanted to pm me your concern than to jump on my b/s/t thread. Also i can email the seller if you wish to confirm it.

In addition, if you feel that some of your posts on my b/s/t thread arent that appropriate, you have been civil in your arguments. I am ok with it but rather you did it through pm. But afterall its not like you are calvindog who uses terms like scumbag.

We just can't seem to let this go can we? The seller made NO mention of who was the buyer.

I did not know you were the first person to contact him. I only saw your "I'll take it" comment 10 minutes AFTER my PM.

Huh? Not sure exactly what you mean? Why would you post "I'll take it" approx 30 minutes AFTER you bought the card. And after you saw my PM sent? If you were letting me know, hey I already bought the card, then that's not a very effective form of communication. Personally, I would have let the seller tell me the card was already sold. Can't you see where I thought you were trying to cut in line with your "I'll take it" post? How am I supposed to figure that means "I bought the card 30 minutes ago? Remember, I had NO reason to suspect you had already contacted the seller and agreed to buy the card. All I see is "I'll take it" 10 minutes after my PM

Fair enough about sending you a PM first. No need to contact the seller. It won't change anything