Your picks for Individual MLB Awards for 2016!

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Where are you getting that? According to ESPN Fernandez isn't even in the top 10
for WAR in the NL, and Scherzer leads.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/pitchi...6/seasontype/2

the only WAR I use : fangraphs

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ter=&players=0


it uses FIP instead of ERA+ and tho pitcher war is nowhere near as solid as batter war, I prefer FIP. ymmv

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

the only WAR I use : fangraphs

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ter=&players=0


it uses FIP instead of ERA+ and tho pitcher war is nowhere near as solid as batter war, I prefer FIP. ymmv

That is a vastly different ranking. Interesting.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If there was an award for biggest drop off the cliff, Bryce Harper would win easily. His batting average is down 90 points, his slugging average down 200, and his OPS down 300 from last year. Wow.

[packs]

I vote Trout because he leads or is in the top 3 of nearly all advanced offensive statistics while doing the same thing on defense as a center fielder. He's also having a better season this year than he did when he did win the MVP.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

the only WAR I use : fangraphs

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ter=&players=0


it uses FIP instead of ERA+ and tho pitcher war is nowhere near as solid as batter war, I prefer FIP. ymmv

Ah, but even Fangraphs has a flaw. The pitcher who is leading the majors in Fangraphs WAR doesn't even appear on their leader chart...

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Ah, but even Fangraphs has a flaw. The pitcher who is leading the majors in Fangraphs WAR doesn't even appear on their leader chart...

check the table to the right there ,it's listing only people who qualify for the ERA title (162 innings pitched) if you lower the required innings it will show em all!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I know, but WAR is basically a counting stat and not a rate stat, the fact that someone has missed enough time to not be official but still has the highest WAR among pitchers is mind-blowing.

[bravos4evr]

true, but pitcher WAR does have some issues as it undervalues ground ball pitchers a fair bit, it's something they are trying to work on.

I tend to think that the pitcher who threw more innings with similar numbers should win. (BTW, Syndegaard tied Kershaw for WAR) BUT, I think with Sherzer's 40 more inn. pitched, half a K per 9 better rate and similar enough other stuff, he's your Cy Young winner for the NL. (tho, Syndegaard had the most 'unlucky" BABIP against which probably means he was the best pitcher overall, but no voter is going to look at that)

[FourStrikes]

Papi.

38 HR, 127 RBI, .317 BA, .625 SP, 1.028 OPS, and 48(!) freakin' doubles on a division winner, and potential WS-bound/champion team...

all this from a 40 year old gets MY vote.

JMO, and YMMV, but...one helluva "retirement" season, and seemingly valuable to his team.

DS

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[BearBailey]

Al
MVP Trout
CY Britton
Roy Fullmer

NL
MVP Arenando
CY Fernandez
Roy seager