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Old 10-01-2016, 06:44 PM
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the only WAR I use : fangraphs

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ter=&players=0


it uses FIP instead of ERA+ and tho pitcher war is nowhere near as solid as batter war, I prefer FIP. ymmv
Ah, but even Fangraphs has a flaw. The pitcher who is leading the majors in Fangraphs WAR doesn't even appear on their leader chart...
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Ah, but even Fangraphs has a flaw. The pitcher who is leading the majors in Fangraphs WAR doesn't even appear on their leader chart...
check the table to the right there ,it's listing only people who qualify for the ERA title (162 innings pitched) if you lower the required innings it will show em all!
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I know, but WAR is basically a counting stat and not a rate stat, the fact that someone has missed enough time to not be official but still has the highest WAR among pitchers is mind-blowing.
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true, but pitcher WAR does have some issues as it undervalues ground ball pitchers a fair bit, it's something they are trying to work on.

I tend to think that the pitcher who threw more innings with similar numbers should win. (BTW, Syndegaard tied Kershaw for WAR) BUT, I think with Sherzer's 40 more inn. pitched, half a K per 9 better rate and similar enough other stuff, he's your Cy Young winner for the NL. (tho, Syndegaard had the most 'unlucky" BABIP against which probably means he was the best pitcher overall, but no voter is going to look at that)
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Papi.

38 HR, 127 RBI, .317 BA, .625 SP, 1.028 OPS, and 48(!) freakin' doubles on a division winner, and potential WS-bound/champion team...

all this from a 40 year old gets MY vote.

JMO, and YMMV, but...one helluva "retirement" season, and seemingly valuable to his team.

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MVP Trout
CY Britton
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CY Britton
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