Mystery's of the 1933 Goudey set....and, show us your Goudey's

[tedzan]

The Jablonowski card in my set has the official Copyright stamp on the back of this card.
Does anyone else on this forum have Goudey's with the Copyright stamp on them ?

If so, how's about posting them here.


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[brob28]

Interesting Ted, not sure I would have recognized the markings for what they are if I had seen one in the past. So, based on the copyright date, the card would have been released in a series after the date correct? May be an overly simple question, but not being familiar with the process just looking for confirmation as it seems late in the year to be getting the cards copyrighted.

[ZachS]

Besides a signed raw Paul Richards card this is my only other 33 Goudey:




If anyone comes across a lower, left corner let me know.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by brob28

Interesting Ted, not sure I would have recognized the markings for what they are if I had seen one in the past. So, based on the copyright date, the card would have been released in a series after the date correct? May be an overly simple question, but not being familiar with the process just looking for confirmation as it seems late in the year to be getting the cards copyrighted.

Hi Bill

The Jablonowski card was printed on the 4th sheet of the 1933 Goudey set. The cards were issued circa Spring/early Summer 1933.

Most likely that is when these cards were also submitted to the Copyright department. It's my understanding that typically 2 months
transpired until the Copyright registration occurred.

Hopefully, more of these Goudey cards with the Copyright info will be posted here, so we can get a better idea regarding this subject.


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[Pat R]

There was a large group that sold in a REA lot.

Here's six from that lot.
Goudey Group.jpg
Goudey Group Back.jpg

And an informative thread that King started about them.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81615

[Pat R]

Here's a scan of one of the cards with a patent registration card.
Goudey certificate.jpg

And a really neat article that was in SMR about the guy who assembled a
large collection of these.
http://www.psacard.com/Articles/Arti...-auction-block

[tedzan]

Thanks Pat for posting these 6 cards having the Copyright stamp on their backs.


Copyright dates on these 6 cards appear to confirm the 2-month period (noted in Post #58)
between when these cards were issued and the Copyright registration date.

Dickey printed on the 1st sheet, issued in Mar 1933.

Collins printed on the 3rd sheet, issued in Apr 1933.

Cronin printed on the 3rd sheet, issued in Apr 1933.

Maranville printed on the 5th sheet, issued in Apr 1933.

Gehringer printed on the 9th sheet, issued in Aug 1933.

Ott printed on the 10th sheet, issued in Nov 1933.


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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Thanks Pat for posting these 6 cards having the Copyright stamp on their backs.


Copyright dates on these 6 cards appear to confirm the 2-month period (noted in Post #58)
between when these cards were issued and the Copyright registration date.

Dickey printed on the 1st sheet, issued in Mar 1933.

Collins printed on the 3rd sheet, issued in Apr 1933.

Cronin printed on the 3rd sheet, issued in Apr 1933.

Maranville printed on the 5th sheet, issued in Apr 1933.

Gehringer printed on the 9th sheet, issued in Aug 1933.

Ott printed on the 10th sheet, issued in Nov 1933.


TED Z
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Ted,
As king pointed out in the archive thread wouldn't the "date of publication"
be when the cards were issued?
Goudey Copyright Card (2).jpg

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Ted,
As king pointed out in the archive thread wouldn't the "date of publication"
be when the cards were issued?
Attachment 249609

With all due respect, I have to disagree with cmoking. King and I go back 10+ years ago when we did some nice cash/trade deals.

1st......the source(s) of my information regarding issue dates of the 10 (24-card sheets) 1933Goudey series are George Moll (ref. post #31); and,
Bob K (a neighbor who was avid collector of Goudey's). They collected these cards in their younger days, and we talked about this subject in 1981
when I visited with them.

2nd.....For example, check out the Mel Ott card you posted. It's Copyright date is Jan 23, 1934. No way, that the 10th sheet (World Series) cards
were issued that late.
As I stated in the 2nd paragraph (post #1) these cards were issued Nov 1933. This is a well known and confirmed fact.


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[tedzan]

Cards on the 6th sheet of the 1933 Goudey set were issued circa Summer of '33. This fabulous sheet includes double-printed cards of Babe Ruth (#144).
Plus....Babe Ruth (card #149), Lou Gehrig (card #160), Jimmy Foxx (card #154), Leo Durocher (card #147), and the mysterious Moe Berg (card #158).

Does a series of vintage BB cards printed on one sheet get any better than this ?

I DON"T THINK SO !







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[tedzan]

Some more of my favorites from this great set. Show us your favorites.






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[tedzan]

Tough finding in reasonably nice condition...... #1 and #240.






Hey guys, let us see some more of your Goudey's.


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[tedzan]

Jack Quinn was a Major League pitcher for 23 continuous seasons (1909 - 1933). He owns several longevity records. For example,
Jack is the oldest pitcher to ever start a World Series game at age 46 in 1929 for the A's.

Furthermore, Jack Quinn is the only active Major Leaguer featured in the T206 set and the 1933 Goudey set (check-out post #40).





Frank Crosetti was involved in 23 - World Series as a Player and a Coach with the NY Yankees (37 - Major League seasons).
Crosetti's amazing record of 17 - World Series Championship Rings will probably never be surpassed.


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[tedzan]

Two very interesting ballplayers. One whose fame was on the playing field and another whose fame was off the playing field.

Charles Gehringer is rated as one of the all-around greatest 2nd Baseman.

Moe Berg had an unbelievable life. I highly recommend reading his SABR bio...... http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/e1e65b3b







Hey guys,
Are there any more Goudey's out there to be displayed here ?


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