So, were they real, and was it a good deal? Ruth and Gehrig autos

[slidekellyslide]

Goodwill will take anything, they sell autographs all the time. I'm wondering who gave them to Goodwill and why? Especially if they had just been at PSA within the last couple months.

I've got suspicion that they came back bad and whoever submitted them just gave them to Goodwill.

[packs]

I know Goodwill is a charity or whatever but I also believe they have a responsibility to return money that may be ill gotten.

[GoCubsGo32]

I wonder what the original owner paid for the lot before sending it to PSA.

They are still nice snapshots.Worth something, regardless of fake autos.Of course, not as much.

Clubhouse signatures?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by packs

I know Goodwill is a charity or whatever but I also believe they have a responsibility to return money that may be ill gotten.

I think if you pay by credit card you'll be okay. Almost always the credit card company will protect you.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Look at the pen pressure. Come on man. Were those signed in Bic ballpoint?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

Look at the pen pressure. Come on man. Were those signed in Bic ballpoint?

Signed in Bic and about two months ago at most.

[slidekellyslide]

I think it would have been safe to assume that these got rejected by PSA since we know that they went through Grad's hands and they aren't encapsulated. Anyone know what those cert numbers are that are shown in the Goodwill pics?

[yanks12025]

I just asked Steve about these in person. He said they were good and should have been certed by PSA. And not sure why goodwill didn't show the letters.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I just asked Steve about these in person. He said they were good and should have been certed by PSA. And not sure why goodwill didn't show the letters.

Thank you for the info. So Grad says they are good and Richard Simon says they are no good. Why weren't they encapsulated?

Wonder if we will see them again in another venue?

[GoCubsGo32]

Thanks for the updated info.

I put the Cert# numbers listed in the Goodwill auction into PSA registry...no records. Put the numbers in Beckett...no records.... unless I'm doing something wrong..?

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Wonder if we will see them again in another venue?

You can be almost 100% sure we will see them again........

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Goodwill will take anything, they sell autographs all the time. I'm wondering who gave them to Goodwill and why? Especially if they had just been at PSA within the last couple months.

I've got suspicion that they came back bad and whoever submitted them just gave them to Goodwill.

If you want to hide something from the hobby I would think Goodwill would be the place to go. If the seller thought they were authentic there are so many auction houses that would give them much better exposure and sell them for much more money than Goodwill could possibly hope to get.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

If you want to hide something from the hobby I would think Goodwill would be the place to go. If the seller thought they were authentic there are so many auction houses that would give them much better exposure and sell them for much more money than Goodwill could possibly hope to get.

The fact they showed up at Goodwill means the money all goes to Goodwill. Someone donated these items to them.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

The fact they showed up at Goodwill means the money all goes to Goodwill. Someone donated these items to them.

And probably got a tax write off in the process.
Years ago I knew of a large HOF collection that was donated to a public institution. From what I had seen of the collection much of it was fake.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

And probably got a tax write off in the process.
Years ago I knew of a large HOF collection that was donated to a public institution. From what I had seen of the collection much of it was fake.

I hadn't thought of that angle, but I'll bet you're right.

[btcarfagno]

I wonder if it happens enough times if the IRS could come after some of the scumbags for tax fraud. Or helping to enable tax fraud anyway.

Tom C

[canjond]

The goodwill description, itself, says "these have not been authenticated". Doesn't that say it all?