1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 3 Available in Complete 1952 Topps Set Break at National

[HobokenJon]

Every state lottery has an independent audit firm on hand to supervise and vouch for the integrity of the number-selection process. Who is the independent third party that will be vouching for the integrity of the "computerized random number generator," the details of which aren't specified in the ad? Or should we just trust that the Mantle won't wind up in the hands of a related party?

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by HobokenJon

Every state lottery has an independent audit firm on hand to supervise and vouch for the integrity of the number-selection process. Who is the independent third party that will be vouching for the integrity of the "computerized random number generator," the details of which aren't specified in the ad? Or should we just trust that the Mantle won't wind up in the hands of a related party?

++this. If you're buying a slot in this fiasco, you have money to burn.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

we seem to be getting side tracked from the issue. This is a set break that was supposed to happen 4 months ago. When will they mercifully pull the plug on this? Was the buyer's money escrowed? Awful lot of press when it was supposed to go down, some information was forthcoming shortly thereafter, and since then pretty much crickets.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Perhaps it will continue through next year's National.

[MEBBoy]

I wish they would post a current status update. There has been no updates/info for 2+ months now. When there's a total black hole of information, that's concerning.

I haven't asked for a refund yet, but if they'd give an update (even if it's the same info) every 2 weeks or so, it would go a long way to alleviate concerns.

MEB Boy

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Perhaps it will continue through next year's National.

or National '18? At some point in our lifetime, this set-break will fill up.

Wasn't the slot price based on the value of the set last year? How can you have a continious 12 month set break with a fixed slot value and a changing set value.

I can assure you that if the set goes up in value, you will not be having a set-break at those old slot values. JC is getting a free look at your money.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Mr. Alpaugh seems not to have posted on this board since early September.

[Exhibitman]

I don't see the attraction to these set breaks; though I did take a chance on the Kreindler painting lotto thing because I really admire his work and would have had a hell of a Joe Louis piece if I'd won. Regardless of the legal technicalities, it is definitely gambling and I don't really like it as part of the hobby.

Is a 1/407 chance at the Mantle worth a $350 fee? Not to me and not to most anyone else, apparently. The way I look at it (which is probably 100% wrong from a statistical analysis but WTF do I know) is that 1/407 = .2457% chance of winning the Mantle. .2457% = 0.002457 x $23,000 = $56.11. That's what I'd pay for the chance. Since there are some other good cards too, I might kick it up to $100 or so in case I get one of the great high # HOFers instead. But $350 doesn't feel realistic.