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Old 06-14-2017, 12:27 PM
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11 retraction underbidder on second most expensive card, Star Jordan.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792

25 (lol) retraction high bidder on fourth most expensive card, Fleer Jordan.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792

18 retraction guy from a few days ago still underbidder on LeBron, guess he merited an exemption after all.

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Old 06-14-2017, 12:45 PM
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The Frank Robinson winning bidder had a QUADRUPLE stack going on.....which means his bid was higher.
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11 retraction underbidder on second most expensive card, Star Jordan.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792

25 (lol) retraction high bidder on fourth most expensive card, Fleer Jordan.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792

18 retraction guy from a few days ago still underbidder on LeBron, guess he merited an exemption after all.

Carry on.
The fact e-bay let's this go on is fing insane. Can you imagine what is happening at the AH's that we can't see? Ten-fold this crap.

The only saving grace for me is I put a snipe in at what I think the card is worth; then I walk away. Sometimes I don't even know I won a card until days later. Any other way is just an invitation to be screwed or make an emotional high bid.

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Old 06-14-2017, 02:10 PM
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11 retraction underbidder on second most expensive card, Star Jordan.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792

25 (lol) retraction high bidder on fourth most expensive card, Fleer Jordan.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792

18 retraction guy from a few days ago still underbidder on LeBron, guess he merited an exemption after all.

Carry on.
I'm sure Betsy is readying a response. Betsy. LOL
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"As of April 1, 2017 PWCC places blocks on any user ID that has more than 10 bid cancellations in the past six months. This reflects a reduction in the number of allowed bid cancellations from 25 to 10. As the program continues to mature and continues to affect bidder behavior, PWCC will continue to reduce the threshold."
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Simple typo.

Should be

April 1, 2018.
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You fellas apparently do not fully appreciate, as Betsy explained in post 40, there are different types of retractions. These you are seeing now must be the naive, inconsiderate but non malicious kind.

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You fellas apparently do not fully appreciate, as Besty explained in post 40, there are different types of retractions. These you are seeing now must be the naive, inconsiderate but non malicious kind.
That's funny.
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Just as an aside, the high bidder on the Frank Robinson, who was at 14 retractions at the time Brent and/or Betsy had that heart to heart with him, is now at 15. Must have been another non malicious one.
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"As of April 1, 2017 PWCC places blocks on any user ID that has more than 10 bid cancellations in the past six months. This reflects a reduction in the number of allowed bid cancellations from 25 to 10. As the program continues to mature and continues to affect bidder behavior, PWCC will continue to reduce the threshold."
The coincidence of a promise made on April 1st ...
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:56 PM
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"As of April 1, 2017 PWCC places blocks on any user ID that has more than 10 bid cancellations in the past six months. This reflects a reduction in the number of allowed bid cancellations from 25 to 10. As the program continues to mature and continues to affect bidder behavior, PWCC will continue to reduce the threshold."
Jeez...give Betsy a chance to come on here and explain. My guess is that she can tell us these bidders have both won and paid for more than $60,000 worth of auctions and are therefore exempt from the retraction policy.
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"As of April 1, 2017 PWCC places blocks on any user ID that has more than 10 bid cancellations in the past six months. This reflects a reduction in the number of allowed bid cancellations from 25 to 10. As the program continues to mature and continues to affect bidder behavior, PWCC will continue to reduce the threshold."
As the program continues to mature? What is that supposed to mean? What maturing has to occur, more than 2 bid retractions and you should be done regardless of how much has been spent previously by the bidder. Bids that are retracted influence other bidders prior to retraction and no matter how you look at it are manipulative. I honestly can't see the rationale for allowing multiple retractions. This entire situation stinks in my opinion.
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Old 06-14-2017, 05:39 PM
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Robert, I could not agree more. In my opinion it's a lot of feel-good BS and even the feel-good BS doesn't appear to be sincere, as the 10 limit is not being enforced.
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I'm sure Betsy is readying a response. Betsy. LOL
I bet it is another on a very long list of naive bidders. Seems to be her go to response.
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