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Old 11-20-2017, 03:16 PM
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Hi, are you the same member of the Facebook group I mentioned to ask about it here? Otherwise, there is another one found recently.

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Old 11-20-2017, 03:32 PM
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Vey nostalgic to see a thread started by Bob on one of the many hobby mysteries he used to explore.

Would be great to know more about these cards and their origin. I think 1967 was the last year for Topps Salesman Sample 3 card strips. I have several including one for 1966. While in some years there was an ad on the back of two cards and a regular back on the third card, the back and front did not usually match the same player. But in 1966 the 3 card panel I have has no regular back card. The 3d card is a second ad for the Rub Off inserts for that year. So no green number.

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Old 11-20-2017, 03:52 PM
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PSA has no record of a 1966 Salesman's Sample graded with Mantle on it. They only have "Howie Koplitz/Jim Lonborg/Luis Aparicio", "Don Mossi/Jim Fregosi/Sandy Koufax", and the guy selling a bunch on eBay only has 30 copies of "Pepitone/Niekro/Wagner".

I'm still leaning towards reprint rather than printing anomaly. Why would only the Mantle have a card number in green?
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Old 11-20-2017, 06:24 PM
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I am with Al. So good to see Bob's name in print again. What a great man.

I am betting this is a reprint but it is fascinating. Are there printing experts out there that could tell if this is a reprint or not? Print dots, marks, etc?
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Old 11-20-2017, 06:41 PM
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I am with Al. So good to see Bob's name in print again. What a great man.

I am betting this is a reprint but it is fascinating. Are there printing experts out there that could tell if this is a reprint or not? Print dots, marks, etc?
+1 on Bob.....couple thoughts on this card: 1)if this card is legit, more than likely there should be other 66s with green numbers on the back also, at least from the same series. 2) Neither of the example cards are centered, so I am thinking they may not be reprints, but were they altered in some way(as previously mentioned stained w/a chemical, etc)?
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[QUOTE=swarmee;1722184]Hi, are you the same member of the Facebook group I mentioned to ask about it here? Otherwise, there is another one found recently.

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That is not me, so there is another one. I can tell you, it feels just like a regular card and (this may sound weird) smells like a regular card. The color is not as rich but that (and the green number) are the only differences.

The mystery continues. I'd love to find out more.




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Old 11-21-2017, 06:28 PM
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Nope that's not me. Here's a full photo of mine:



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Any chance you have a normal one to put side by side and take pictures of them together. The whole card looks a little off to me, so does the other one pictured with the green #.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:14 PM
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Interesting that both those cards have the three black dots (left of elbow, top of arm, right hand). Same with the one Bob posted 8 years ago. The ones on COMC have none of those dots.
I'm still leaning fake.
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Any chance you have a normal one to put side by side and take pictures of them together. The whole card looks a little off to me, so does the other one pictured with the green #.


Unfortunately I don't. I can tell you the color is not as bold as the typical '66. But other than that (and of course the green #) it looks real. It also feels and (this may seem strange) smells like a real card.

Maybe someday I'll find out something. Until then it's a good conversation piece!


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The condition of those "new" green #d Mantle's is astounding. 2 new discoveries 51 years after the original issue, and near mint condition. What are the odds of that?
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Default I also have one I'm glad more are showing up

Yo I have the same card exactly to the tee I wish we can find out more about it I'm not sure how to attach the picture
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Always fun to see a Bob Lemke thread revived
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