Card doctoring...

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by drcy

As I said, if a rule was instituted that the grading margin of error had to included next to the grade on the label, the card owners would protest far more than the graders. It's known as "protecting their investment."

That's rich. "Grading margin of error" would mean that if I send in a 6 it comes back a 5.5 or 5 and that's okay. It means that if a big auction house or a popular dealer sends in a 6, it comes back as a 7 and that's okay.

But I wasn't referring to margin of error in grading. I was referring to ignoring doctoring of cards for some submitters.

[rainier2004]

How about we just stop trusting flips and make educated decisions for ourselves? It all comes down to capitalism in the end...I for one try to avoid doctored cards and whether its graded or not matters very little in my assessment.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

How about we just stop trusting flips and make educated decisions for ourselves? It all comes down to capitalism in the end...I for one try to avoid doctored cards and whether its graded or not matters very little in my assessment.

I would turn this around and say for many folks, particularly newer collectors as I mentioned, their attitude is, "whether it's altered or not matters very little in my assessment."

When I see the praise being lavished on people I know to be card doctors or who are outlets for card doctors, because they deliver a card timely, it makes me kinda sick sometimes. Well, that's overstating it, but still.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I would turn this around and say for many folks, particularly newer collectors as I mentioned, their attitude is, "whether it's altered or not matters very little in my assessment."

When I see the praise being lavished on people I know to be card doctors or who are outlets for card doctors, because they deliver a card timely, it makes me kinda sick sometimes. Well, that's overstating it, but still.

Peter, I think only time in the hobby can fix that. I know I have spent countless hours listening to stories. There are more altered cards in high grade holders than anyone wants to admit. If you collect high grade pre-war you should be aware you probably have some altered cards (*in TPG holders). It is a fact. But hey, that card doctor ships fast!!

[swarmee]

And some of them post on this website with no issues. If I ran the board, they would be "gone with the suspension."

[Leon]

Originally Posted by swarmee

And some of them post on this website with no issues. If I ran the board, they would be "gone with the suspension."

Ok, so who are they?

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by swarmee

And some of them post on this website with no issues. If I ran the board, they would be "gone with the suspension."

Could you please share? I'm sure we would all love to hear that and Leon already seems interested.

[swarmee]

Gone With The Stain... Dick Towle.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ighlight=towle

I thought the clue would be more than obvious. Guess I was wrong.