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Old 01-20-2018, 07:44 PM
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How about we just stop trusting flips and make educated decisions for ourselves? It all comes down to capitalism in the end...I for one try to avoid doctored cards and whether its graded or not matters very little in my assessment.
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How about we just stop trusting flips and make educated decisions for ourselves? It all comes down to capitalism in the end...I for one try to avoid doctored cards and whether its graded or not matters very little in my assessment.
I would turn this around and say for many folks, particularly newer collectors as I mentioned, their attitude is, "whether it's altered or not matters very little in my assessment."

When I see the praise being lavished on people I know to be card doctors or who are outlets for card doctors, because they deliver a card timely, it makes me kinda sick sometimes. Well, that's overstating it, but still.
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I would turn this around and say for many folks, particularly newer collectors as I mentioned, their attitude is, "whether it's altered or not matters very little in my assessment."

When I see the praise being lavished on people I know to be card doctors or who are outlets for card doctors, because they deliver a card timely, it makes me kinda sick sometimes. Well, that's overstating it, but still.
Peter, I think only time in the hobby can fix that. I know I have spent countless hours listening to stories. There are more altered cards in high grade holders than anyone wants to admit. If you collect high grade pre-war you should be aware you probably have some altered cards (*in TPG holders). It is a fact. But hey, that card doctor ships fast!!
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And some of them post on this website with no issues. If I ran the board, they would be "gone with the suspension."
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And some of them post on this website with no issues. If I ran the board, they would be "gone with the suspension."
Ok, so who are they?
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And some of them post on this website with no issues. If I ran the board, they would be "gone with the suspension."
Could you please share? I'm sure we would all love to hear that and Leon already seems interested.
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Gone With The Stain... Dick Towle.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ighlight=towle

I thought the clue would be more than obvious. Guess I was wrong.
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Some of what he does I guess you could argue about, but he admits he takes out wrinkles.
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Gone With The Stain... Dick Towle.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ighlight=towle

I thought the clue would be more than obvious. Guess I was wrong.
Hmmm..I am sort of slow......In retrospect I agree. Gone. Next?
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