OT: Hall of Fame - Edgar Martinez?

packs · #1 01-24-2018, 12:45 PM

I'd say Thome was a pretty one dimensional player. But if you can put a guy in for hitting homers, you should be able to put a guy in for being a professional hitter too.

drcy · #2 01-24-2018, 12:48 PM

He's a local hero here in Seattle, and they even have a street named after him. The local news here is totally biased for him. However, I'm not particularly a Mariners (or Seahawks) fan, so I don't have the homer bias.

Touch'EmAll · #3 01-24-2018, 12:55 PM

How about the only athlete in history to be an All-Star in both Major League Baseball and the National Football League? His short lived career highlight film is jam packed with seemingly unending absolutely incredible mind-boggling plays - Power! Defense! Offense! off the chart! Some of these other guys mentioned couldn't even hold his jock strap. Famous, you ask? Yup, big time!

RaidonCollects · #4 01-24-2018, 01:18 PM

Edgar should definitely get in IMO, .312 / .418 / .515 over 18 years plus a 68.3 WAR + loads of other great stats.

I think this is one of the strongest HOF selections in a while, Moose, Guerrero, Jones, Thome, Walker, Schilling and Hoffman all deserve a spot.

Just my opinions,

Owen

PowderedH2O · #5 01-24-2018, 01:40 PM

Funny how we will hold it against Edgar for not playing the field for the last ten years of his career after he got hurt, but we don't apply the same logic to guys like Trevor Hoffman. In 18 years of National League baseball, Hoffman came to the plate 36 times. He pitched 1035 times, but pitched less than 1100 innings and never started a game. Hoffman is one dimensional. Edgar is too. I think both were pretty darned good at that one dimension. I say let em in!

insidethewrapper · #6 01-24-2018, 01:24 PM

I thought the Hall had higher standards - only 2247 hits for Edgar. Let everyone in, except some of the Best players of all time ( Pete Rose, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens ). These greats must continue to have their hands slapped.

Rookiemonster · #7 01-24-2018, 01:42 PM

Greatest DH of all time yes. Hall of famer not really. I feel like putting him in is a way of just putting fan favorites to please the masses. A lot of the greats from the 80s and 90s have been tarnished by the roids. So now the Hall wants to put in players that make you feel good. Like we can�t see the major holes in the halls inductees. No Rose no Bonds no clemens and joe Jackson ? Oh but we got Jack Morris , Alan trammel and Edgar Martinez.

Peter_Spaeth · #8 01-24-2018, 01:46 PM

Mussina is much much better than many pitchers in the HOF. I don't think Hoffman was that good personally.

damonh23 · #9 01-24-2018, 02:17 PM

man that's a tough one, though he had some big forearms! He could hit! But I'd rather see the guy with the most hits in the 1990s get in before Edgar! And that's Mark Grace!

71buc · #10 01-24-2018, 02:19 PM

Absolutely Edgar belongs.

Peter_Spaeth · #11 01-24-2018, 02:59 PM

From Baseball Reference's Similarity Scores.
Similar Batters
1.Will Clark (902.2)
2.Matt Holliday (894.3)
3.John Olerud (885.6)
4.Moises Alou (879.2)
5.Magglio Ordonez (875.3)
6.Bob Johnson (863.0)
7.Bernie Williams (860.3)
8.Paul O'Neill (852.6)
9.Lance Berkman (851.6)
10.Ellis Burks (850.2)

My opinion -- a definite tier short. Thome, not enthusiastic about, but I guess you have to say yes to a guy with 600 HR if he isn't named Sosa or ARod.

Peter_Spaeth · #12 01-24-2018, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

I thought the Hall had higher standards - only 2247 hits for Edgar. Let everyone in, except some of the Best players of all time ( Pete Rose, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens ). These greats must continue to have their hands slapped.

It's hard to take an institution seriously that excludes a 7 time MVP winner and 7 time Cy Young winner.

packs · #13 01-24-2018, 01:50 PM

I think it would be harder to take them seriously if they put them in.

kailes2872 · #14 01-24-2018, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's hard to take an institution seriously that excludes a 7 time MVP winner and 7 time Cy Young winner.

Especially with Selig, Pudge, Bagwell, and Piazza in. Oh and look at Ricky Herderson�s power in the early �90s while with the bash brothers. The selective outrage is nauseating. Let them in

Peter_Spaeth · #15 01-24-2018, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kailes2872

Especially with Selig, Pudge, Bagwell, and Piazza in. Oh and look at Ricky Herderson’s power in the early ‘90s while with the bash brothers. The selective outrage is nauseating. Let them in

Not to mention, again lol, all the greenie poppers we worship. Oh BTW Randy Johnson's best years were in his mid and late 30s. Just saying.

darwinbulldog · #16 01-24-2018, 02:10 PM

I don't feel strongly about Edgar either way, but I wouldn't have put Hoffman in. I don't have any objection in principle to voting in a closer or a DH, but Mariano's the only 1-innning guy I've seen who warrants a spot in the Hall. I've seen at least a couple of DHs who were good enough, but on Edgar I'm undecided.

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