Does Pre-war mean pre-1939?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Rich Falvo

I agree the war is a dividing line, so the debate is when you consider that the war started. It was going on before the US got involved. The author uses 1940 as a compromise date. I just don't see that as very controversial. I believe he also collects non-US cards, so he wouldn't only go by the issue dates of US sets as a determiner.

Long before the two main allied powers entered the war?He is not including 1940 sets is he? Then he is using no compromise date. He is using the British date, when the Russian date would be almost 2 years later and the American date would be more than 2 years later.

[Rich Falvo]

Originally Posted by rats60

Long before the two main allied powers entered the war?He is not including 1940 sets is he? Then he is using no compromise date. He is using the British date, when the Russian date would be almost 2 years later and the American date would be more than 2 years later.

The compromise is between 1939 and 1941. I just don't see how this is so controversial and why people are so upset that one person's opinion is that 1940 is a good dividing line to make things simple.

[DHogan]

I've always considered prewar to mean anything before the US entered in the war. I have a few non-sports cards from the War Gum. From Gum Inc. The copyright says 1942. What era would these be considered ?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Rich Falvo

The compromise is between 1939 and 1941. I just don't see how this is so controversial and why people are so upset that one person's opinion is that 1940 is a good dividing line to make things simple.

How about when Great Britain declared war on Japan? I am sorry, I don't see what the compromise is. It is we should go with when Great Britain declared war on Germany and ignore their interactions with Italy and Japan and completely ignore Russia and USA. How is that any compromise? The war didn't fully begin until 1941.

[Rich Falvo]

Originally Posted by rats60

How about when Great Britain declared war on Japan? I am sorry, I don't see what the compromise is. It is we should go with when Great Britain declared war on Germany and ignore their interactions with Italy and Japan and completely ignore Russia and USA. How is that any compromise? The war didn't fully begin until 1941.

Do you think that maybe you are overthinking this a little? One person's opinion is that pre-war cards are 1940 and earlier. You disagree. I'm out of this debate.

[GasHouseGang]

Well, the name of this forum is "WWII & Older", not "prewar". If you say postwar is after 1945, and prewar is before 1939, you're leaving a hole of six years where cards wouldn't be included in either group. I think WWII & Older is a better definition of what is really intended.

[conor912]

I've always considered '48 as the beginning of post war cards, but there's obviously 10 different takes for every 10 guys you ask....

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by conor912

I've always considered '48 as the beginning of post war cards, but there's obviously 10 different takes for every 10 guys you ask....

I do too, although technically not sure. What about poor R302-1 (M.P & Co. 1943)? They got nowhere to go

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Paul S

I do too, although technically not sure. What about poor R302-1 (M.P & Co. 1943)? They got nowhere to go

casualty of the war. c'est la guerre.

[VoodooChild]

Here's how I classify/define eras for my own purposes:

1900-1941 - Pre-War or Pre-WWII era
1942-1947 - Obscure era
1948-1980 - Vintage era
1981-1986 - Pre-Junk Wax or Rookie Card Craze era
1987-1996 - Junk Wax era
1997-Present - Modern era

[Leon]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

Well, the name of this forum is "WWII & Older", not "prewar". If you say postwar is after 1945, and prewar is before 1939, you're leaving a hole of six years where cards wouldn't be included in either group. I think WWII & Older is a better definition of what is really intended.

I/we did too. It made more sense.
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