Ted Williams -full PSA and Green Diamond?

[shelly]

[Case12]

Thanks all. I really like this one!

[sycks22]

The photo was when he was with the Minneapolis Millers. I've owned the same photo/size before. The Green Diamond autos are good

[Case12]

Thanks. I like it a lot. Cool history.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by sycks22

The photo was when he was with the Minneapolis Millers. I've owned the same photo/size before. The Green Diamond autos are good

Not at the very end when John Henry forged a ton of crap

[Kco]

Originally Posted by shelly

Not at the very end when John Henry forged a ton of crap

Many people don’t know this, but at least it’s easy enough to Discern the JH from the genuine Ted signatures.

[robbieg]

Originally Posted by Kco

Many people don’t know this, but at least it’s easy enough to Discern the JH from the genuine Ted signatures.

Is there a good place to view JH vs. authentic Williams signatures?

[Steve D]

Originally Posted by robbieg

Is there a good place to view JH vs. authentic Williams signatures?

+1

The JH forgeries are what have kept me far away from Green Diamond stuff.


Steve

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by shelly

Not at the very end when John Henry forged a ton of crap

Originally Posted by robbieg

Is there a good place to view JH vs. authentic Williams signatures?

Or even better is there a place to buy one cheap? Yes I collect weird stuff.

[guy3050]

I purchased this in the mid 90's , what do you guys think

thumbnail_IMG_1180 by Guy Bourque, on Flickr

thumbnail_IMG_1181 by Guy Bourque, on Flickr

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by robbieg

Is there a good place to view JH vs. authentic Williams signatures?

I believe this is an urban myth. I've seen these allegations for years, yet when asked for proof, no one has ever produced an example of a John Henry signed Green Diamond "Ted Williams."

Some time ago I asked the major TPAs and they do not believe that John Henry signed any Green Diamond material.

But, I believe I know how this myth started...

Back in the 1990s at a card show, John Henry was boasting to a small group of dealers that he could sign Ted's name. John Henry then proceeded to show how well he could do it and he signed "Ted Williams" on a slip of paper.

I have seen that slip of paper. It was a poor forgery that would not fool anyone familiar with Ted's signature. John Henry could not deceptively sign Ted's signature.

I believe this myth sprang from this incident when John Henry was bullsh1tt1ng a group of guys. Over time it evolved into "John Henry was a master forger and he signed Green Diamond photos."

If someone can produce examples of JH forgeries, I will be all ears and willing to re-evaluate. I have no skin in the game either way. Until then, I think it's just all talk.