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Old 05-23-2019, 02:01 PM
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If it were illegal, Dick Towelle and others would already be out of business a long time ago.

2nd time you've mentioned him. The one person who pubically writes what he does to cards for others. Not sure if he submits, and doubtful he auctions for others. Seems like you have an axe to grind.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:12 PM
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There might be other offenses involved, but certainly wire fraud and (if a catalog was involved) mail fraud. I would presume a prosecutor would charge anyone he or she thought could be convicted for "devising" or knowingly participating in the "scheme or artifice to defraud" which of course would depend on what evidence law enforcement gathered as to the various participants. So it's conjecture at this point, for me anyhow.
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2nd time you've mentioned him. The one person who pubically writes what he does to cards for others. Not sure if he submits, and doubtful he auctions for others. Seems like you have an axe to grind.
2nd time? Please show me the first time.
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2nd time? Please show me the first time.

Sorry, did you just take the name from Goudey77s post? Maybe it was him. I know he was mentioned earlier.
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Sorry, did you just take the name from Goudey77s post? Maybe it was him. I know he was mentioned earlier.
I think Chuck and I had a brief exchange about him.
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I can't believe that someone would actually pay 3k for a Look n See card of Benedict Arnold. Why?
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I can't believe that someone would actually pay 3k for a Look n See card of Benedict Arnold. Why?
Why would Topps make a card of Benedict Arnold?
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Why would Topps make a card of Benedict Arnold?
It betrays a certain callousness, eh?
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You know the answer to that Barry.
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I can't believe that someone would actually pay 3k for a Look n See card of Benedict Arnold. Why?
Because these people would buy a loose turd, if it were properly slabbed and assigned an ultra-high numeric grade. This type of collector needs the validation of a 3rd party, and has little ability to think for themselves. And conveniently enough, there's an easy way to turn a profit at their expense.

It's the current-day example of "The Emperor's Clothes". Hopefully with time, that will change.
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Because these people would buy a loose turd, if it were properly slabbed and assigned an ultra-high numeric grade. This type of collector needs the validation of a 3rd party, and has little ability to think for themselves. And conveniently enough, there's an easy way to turn a profit at their expense.

It's the current-day example of "The Emperor's Clothes". Hopefully, that will change.
More than likely it's a registry-driven purchase, I would think.
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Because these people would buy a loose turd, if it were properly slabbed and assigned an ultra-high numeric grade. This type of collector needs the validation of a 3rd party, and has little ability to think for themselves. And conveniently enough, there's an easy way to turn a profit at their expense.

It's a current-day example of "The Emperor's Clothes". Hopefully with time, that will change.
Agreed, and think about this for a moment. The card was graded an 8 and someone paid fifty bucks for it. No problem there.

Then a card doctor ruins it by slicing off the left border, PSA misses it entirely, if anything it looks worse after defacement, and now the value increases sixty-fold. Does everyone recognize how effing ridiculous this is?
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Because these people would buy a loose turd, if it were properly slabbed and assigned an ultra-high numeric grade. This type of collector needs the validation of a 3rd party, and has little ability to think for themselves. And conveniently enough, there's an easy way to turn a profit at their expense.

It's the current-day example of "The Emperor's Clothes". Hopefully with time, that will change.
https://nationalpurebreddogday.com/t...mbino-and-dot/

I swear I was thinking that in 1923 Babe Ruth's dog Dot was seen evacuating in

the park and the leavings were collected and saved all these years, they

would grade/authenticate and encapsulate and make quite a profit

Scary but very possible...
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I can't believe that someone would actually pay 3k for a Look n See card of Benedict Arnold. Why?
Uh, because someone in 2019 would pay 3k?
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Mercy, again.
A few more of these and I'm joining David James in the conspiracy camp lol.


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