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Old 06-21-2019, 12:22 PM
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Why does everyone wish bad upon SGC? They have been pretty clean so far. Wouldn't it be nice if one company was actually relatively good at spotting doctored cards?
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Old 06-21-2019, 05:07 PM
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Why does everyone wish bad upon SGC? They have been pretty clean so far. Wouldn't it be nice if one company was actually relatively good at spotting doctored cards?
I don't wish bad on them, they may be marginally better at spotting alterations, or simply more cautious about things. But as far as I know they dodge responsibility with the best of them.

And of course, PSA is so bad almost anyone could be relatively good in comparison.
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Old 06-21-2019, 05:32 PM
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I don't wish bad on them, they may be marginally better at spotting alterations, or simply more cautious about things. But as far as I know they dodge responsibility with the best of them.

And of course, PSA is so bad almost anyone could be relatively good in comparison.
Not Beckett, apparently.
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Old 06-21-2019, 05:47 PM
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I can go on record saying that Gary Moser, nor any of the other named card doctors have ever consigned to my auction.

I did not know I needed to weigh-in, if there was no issue with my consignors. Apparently judgement has already been passed.


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i am experiencing great uncertainty and don’t know what to make of the situation. please help.
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Old 06-21-2019, 06:44 PM
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i am experiencing great uncertainty and don’t know what to make of the situation. please help.
I will do what I can for you. If you have any Wade Boggs, Roger Clemens, Ted Williams, or Eddie Mathews cards/memorabilia sell it to me know really cheap before it becomes completely worthless. Hope this helps.
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I can go on record saying that Gary Moser, nor any of the other named card doctors have ever consigned to my auction.

I did not know I needed to weigh-in, if there was no issue with my consignors. Apparently judgement has already been passed.


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I would upgrade Brockelman to an A for this response.
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Old 06-21-2019, 07:13 PM
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I would upgrade Brockelman to an A for this response.
Yes I agree, I am sure most of us except Ronnie who is self-sufficient appreciate the response by Scott.
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Not Beckett, apparently.
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Old 06-21-2019, 06:53 PM
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Why does everyone wish bad upon SGC? They have been pretty clean so far. Wouldn't it be nice if one company was actually relatively good at spotting doctored cards?
They are not clean. They've authenticated forged autographs and that one is still being investigated by the FBI.
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They are not clean. They've authenticated forged autographs and that one is still being investigated by the FBI.
SGC is being investigated by the FBI? Are they aware of this?
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SGC is being investigated by the FBI? Are they aware of this?
Maybe it is a double secret investigation, has to be a secret if their lawyer doesn't know about it.
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Old 06-25-2019, 12:51 PM
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Maybe it is a double secret investigation, has to be a secret if their lawyer doesn't know about it.
You remember SGC graders were involved in grading forged signatures, which would fall under the preview of the FBI. I believe they're still working that case. The SEC would only look at this company if it were publicly traded. It appears to be an LLC.
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:48 PM
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You remember SGC graders were involved in grading forged signatures, which would fall under the preview of the FBI. I believe they're still working that case. The SEC would only look at this company if it were publicly traded. It appears to be an LLC.
The investigation is of the forger, not SGC.
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The investigation is of the forger, not SGC.
No lawsuits yet. No problems. Cases were brought within days of the BP oil spill.
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