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Old 07-01-2019, 06:22 PM
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Like a bank robber returning (some of) the money after he got caught red handed. To try to get a lighter sentence. Wowzers. Where was their initiative during a decade or more of this sh*t?
Well in your situation the bank robber was actually arrested, and trying to get a ligher sentence..

in this situation, no arrest, no lawsuits..everyone is being paid back....nothing to see here.
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Old 07-01-2019, 06:28 PM
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Well in your situation the bank robber was actually arrested, and trying to get a ligher sentence..

in this situation, no arrest, no lawsuits..everyone is being paid back....nothing to see here.
To me, an active FBI investigation is not nothing. But that's just me, Jake.
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Old 07-01-2019, 07:03 PM
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Ok, here is an SGC 3 Cy Young Port with an EPDG back that was sold by Lee back in his 2017 auction. It was then cleaned up and regraded by SGC to a 5.5 and sold by PWCC with the High End sticker of course....

Perhaps Lee can see who bought the card? I’m curious of course... was it Moser? Maybe someone else? Link to BO research below:

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Old 07-01-2019, 08:12 PM
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Gary is not a T206 guy I don't believe. But, someone else working with Brent might be. It would not surprise me at all if Brent himself was the buyer, just as he bought the WWG DiMaggio out of REA, and some other cards I am aware of.

No big deal, though, at least it wasn't trimmed so yay for SGC.
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Old 07-01-2019, 11:11 PM
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Ok, here is an SGC 3 Cy Young Port with an EPDG back that was sold by Lee back in his 2017 auction. It was then cleaned up and regraded by SGC to a 5.5 and sold by PWCC with the High End sticker of course....

Perhaps Lee can see who bought the card? I’m curious of course... was it Moser? Maybe someone else? Link to BO research below:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=3708
I understand that as a general matter AHs and dealers would not divulge the identity of their buyers, but when the purchases at issue obviously involve fraud, WHY continue to protect the guilty? Why not out them? What's the downside, what's the fear? Not singling Lee out by any means.

Brent was connected to the WWG DiMaggio only because someone came forward and told me, and allowed me to post it. We are now almost certainly dealing with many multiples of that situation, where people could come forward and provide facts.
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Old 07-02-2019, 12:35 PM
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To me, an active FBI investigation is not nothing. But that's just me, Jake.
When 'active' for this long given all the proof that has been submitted, you can indict a ham sandwich, yet nothing done

Also arrests are usually made so evidence cant be destroyed while the 'active' investigation takes place

Yes, if the investigation is more secret, and there is less worry that any alleged crimes are now being hidden or evidence isnt destroyed there is more of a wait period.

Tough to say there are victims in the criminal case when no civil lawsuits

Times just keeps going on...
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Jake -- you're clueless about this.
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Jake -- you're clueless about this.
OK how many months/years need to go by before you agree the 'active' investigation isnt so active.
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OK how many months/years need to go by before you agree the 'active' investigation isnt so active.
Until subpoenas and search warrants are served I don’t think any criminal investigation is going on. An inquiry yes that’s where I believe we are at right now...
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Old 07-02-2019, 01:52 PM
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Until subpoenas and search warrants are served I don’t think any criminal investigation is going on. An inquiry yes that’s where I believe we are at right now...
You wouldn't know, the FBI isn't going to publicly announce subpoenas and search warrants.
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Until subpoenas and search warrants are served I don’t think any criminal investigation is going on. An inquiry yes that’s where I believe we are at right now...
The way people gossip in this small card community, i would think word would of gotten out if there were search warrants given and police tape etc around the building etc.
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Old 07-02-2019, 01:51 PM
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OK how many months/years need to go by before you agree the 'active' investigation isnt so active.
I know people who are actively engaged with the active FBI investigation. Just stop already, enough.
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in this situation, no arrest, no lawsuits..everyone is being paid back....nothing to see here.
*yawn* Wait, did I miss something new?....nope. Ok, back to my nap.
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*yawn* Wait, did I miss something new?....nope. Ok, back to my nap.
Jake doesn't understand, it seems, that sometimes the investigation precedes the arrest/indictment.
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*yawn* Wait, did I miss something new?....nope. Ok, back to my nap.

The quote you took from me was actually taken out of context.
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