Mantle 1953 PSA : here is why you should never put cards is heavy screw downs OUCH

[robw1959]

I remember one time when PSA returned a T206 Cobb of mine ungraded and unholdered due to them considering it being "pressed". I don't know the history of that card, but it could have been in a heavy-duty screwdown holder for quite a while as well, I suppose. Maybe that's what prevented your Mick from getting a number grade, but in any case they should have disclosed the reason to you.

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by robw1959

I remember one time when PSA returned a T206 Cobb of mine ungraded and unholdered due to them considering it being "pressed". I don't know the history of that card, but it could have been in a heavy-duty screwdown holder for quite a while as well, I suppose. Maybe that's what prevented your Mick from getting a number grade, but in any case they should have disclosed the reason to you.

I did call them straight away , but they just read of their cheat sheet
and said they would be unable to give a specific reason why it received
authentic altered
and here is a direct quote for a Net 54 member in 2017

11-13-2017, 12:24 PM

bigfanNY bigfanNY


"I had a long talk with 2 graders who sat down at lunch table with me at national. We only discussed 2 issues min size requirement and altered. What they said about altered was most altered cards were placed in heavy plastic screw downs and pressure was applied to the card. Hence the term altered stock. SGC has the same term. I have had cards from Goudey's to 80's rookies get this grade.And for a time I like many used large screwdowns to display cards at shows so I accepted them at their word. Hope this helps.
Jonathan"

so I guess that may be the reason on mine

[ruth-gehrig]

Originally Posted by megalimey

I did call them straight away , but they just read of their cheat sheet
and said they would be unable to give a specific reason why it received
authentic altered
and here is a direct quote for a Net 54 member in 2017

11-13-2017, 12:24 PM

bigfanNY bigfanNY


"I had a long talk with 2 graders who sat down at lunch table with me at national. We only discussed 2 issues min size requirement and altered. What they said about altered was most altered cards were placed in heavy plastic screw downs and pressure was applied to the card. Hence the term altered stock. SGC has the same term. I have had cards from Goudey's to 80's rookies get this grade.And for a time I like many used large screwdowns to display cards at shows so I accepted them at their word. Hope this helps.
Jonathan"

so I guess that may be the reason on mine

So they measure card thickness?

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

So they measure card thickness?

I could not get an answer from customer service
they just referred me to their website about AUTHENTIC ALTERED

also based on what I have read , with decades of pressure in a screw down
cards can show evidence of pressure , and considered altered ???
its a shame the card has great centering sharp registration , no printers marks
apart from some white spots

[KCRfan1]

Nice card!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Am I the only one seeing the dip in the top border to the left of Mick's head???

[icurnmedic]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Am I the only one seeing the dip in the top border to the left of Mick's head???

First thing I seen....

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Am I the only one seeing the dip in the top border to the left of Mick's head???

I never really noticed that possible , will inspect it closer when I get it back ? , its not really evident on the back , also would that be sufficient reason to say its altered , who knows , they would not elaborate
the Girl I spoke to in customer service
said many of calls received about submissions are from people questioning grade ?
and why it only got the grade it did, her answer I paraphrased , the card is looked at by more than one grader normally 3 different graders some times four , and the ultimate grade is then decided , if the majority agree on identical grade or in my case non grade , then thats the final determination , with no specific reason given other than an obvious qualifier, if it had one , PSA AUTHENTIC ALTERED never come with a qualifier , they just take your money and leave you hanging

[NYYFan63]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Am I the only one seeing the dip in the top border to the left of Mick's head???

Good catch!


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[Hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Am I the only one seeing the dip in the top border to the left of Mick's head???

I missed it initially but yeah its obvious in the 1st pic...that's gotta be it. It's curved like a v neck t shirt.

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