Relevant to our hobby or not?

[Orioles1954]

As someone who works in the industry I'm noticing this with 1950s-1970s Topps sets. They are being unloaded at record rates. Prices haven't suffered...yet.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Yes but nobody is buying a Dusenberg to break it up and sell the parts. While that is what is happening with sets.

Complete sets have always been a bargain if you were breaking them and could move the commons in a timely fashion. With grading that greatly increased the return on high end sets. We sold a 1975 Topps set at our live auction for almost $2,000. The collectors in the crowd thought it was insane (I have to say it was easily the nicest 1975 set I had ever seen, even down to centering) But the dealer who bought it got his money back out of one card. It's an issue for the future, but a different one from the car world. Again you can't buy a Duesnberg for a million and then sell the engine for a million and make a profit on the rest of the common parts.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Yes but nobody is buying a Dusenberg to break it up and sell the parts. While that is what is happening with sets.

Complete sets have always been a bargain if you were breaking them and could move the commons in a timely fashion. With grading that greatly increased the return on high end sets. We sold a 1975 Topps set at our live auction for almost $2,000. The collectors in the crowd thought it was insane (I have to say it was easily the nicest 1975 set I had ever seen, even down to centering) But the dealer who bought it got his money back out of one card. It's an issue for the future, but a different one from the car world. Again you can't buy a Duesnberg for a million and then sell the engine for a million and make a profit on the rest of the common parts.

I can comment on the car part. I have no idea on a Duesnberg but as someone who has owned several Porsches I can guarantee they are worth WAY more in parts than together.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I'd be willing to bet that's not true for a particularly rare Porsche.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I'd be willing to bet that's not true for a particularly rare Porsche.

I respectfully disagree.

Relatively speaking IF you actually drive high end foreign sports cars they are WAY more expensive to own long term than to buy. At least in my experience. Parts are silly crazy expensive. My wife totaled her first and only Porsche. I bought it from the insurance company and parted it out for almost twice what we originally paid for it.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

The ones I am talking about aren't being driven!

[tedzan]

As a long-time owner (40+ years) of 2 classic Thunderbirds, I do not see much relevance between the car and card hobbies.
I've been to numerous vintage shows over the years and there are very distinct differences between personalities (and their
mentalities) of the people involved in these two hobbies.

But, most of all (as we have unfortunately seen) you can "fake" pieces of cardboard. You cannot fake machines, and/or their
operating parts, and expect to get away with it.

Furthermore, Ben is absolutely correct regarding the "break-up" parts value of any high-demand car (vintage or more recent).








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[drcy]

My low raw city bus pass collection is safe.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

lol

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by drcy

My low raw city bus pass collection is safe.