1925 Exhibit Lou Gehrig, Is this real?

[Exhibitman]

If you legitimately believe that there’s any chance that this thing is genuine then send it to a legit TPG for confirmation. If not, get it back from COMC or make them add reprint to the listing. Doing what you’re doing now lacks integrity.

[mintacular]

Adam, what are you talking about? I haven't listed the card for sale it is sitting in my port. It was sent in to sell as a reprint for $5 or so but someone at COMC graded it authentic, so I'm at the phase trying to get the correct determination. The unethical thing for me to do right now is list that card with a high price. Understand the OPINIONS I got from the board members were based on scans and those folks even cautioned me their opinion is not the same as if they could hold the card in hand. I can't tell you how many times I've posted a card on a message board and the opinions didn't bear out. For example, I bought two raw '80 BB Henderson RC that I thought could get 8s, and posted them. Almost every single poster commented that they would get less than 8 based on this and that. I sent them in. Both cards got 8s

[mintacular]

I decided to pay $2 for a COMC condition review, we will see what happens.

[griffon512]

Patrick,

I think you have a legitimate quandary. Your Gehrig deviates the most from authentic Gehrigs in a few areas: 1. the yellowish tint on the front and back of the card does not look like typical toning of an authentic '25 Gehrig. Here's an example: https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515. 2. The roughly even corner wear bothers me. It may have been fabricated to look aged. 3. The stock showing signs of wear are not typical of a 100 year old card.

It's difficult to tell from your pics, but based on these deviations from norm I think the odds of this being authentic are 10-15%.

I suggest you do a couple things. 1. Buy a black light (they're available for under $10) and see how it looks in a completely dark room using that device. If it does not fluoresce or only shows dim brightening under a black light here's a very good chance the paper stock is pre-1950s. If it fluoresces brightly it's a modern reprint. Though not every card that does not fluoresce is vintage (read this article: https://sabrbaseballcards.blog/2017/...uthentication/), most are. Every card that does fluoresce is modern (post late 1940's optical brighteners were added to most paper and these brighteners will glow when exposed to UV light) as far as I know. You can compare how it looks under a black light versus other 20's or 30's cards or post 1950's cards if you have those in your collection. Depending on how this goes you want to go to step 2. Call SGC and ask them if they will give you a discounted rate to review it. It might not be worth it if it costs you over $300 to review it and in all likelihood it comes back as not authentic after review, so you're going to have make a determination based on an expected value equation. You could also sell it raw -- hopefully with all the appropriate caveats for transparency -- and let someone else decide what to do with it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If I thought there was a ghost of a chance this was real, given what it would be worth, I would pay SGC or PSA to review it. I cannot understand why, since you claim to still cling to that ghost of a chance, you haven't done the same. A $2 COMC review, what's that?

Why not auction it here and cross reference this thread? Let this group decide.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I thought there was a ghost of a chance this was real, given what it would be worth, I would pay SGC or PSA to review it. I cannot understand why, since you claim to still cling to that ghost of a chance, you haven't done the same. A $2 COMC review, what's that?

Why not auction it here and cross reference this thread? Let this group decide.

+1. If this card is real, and is sitting in an SGC or PSA flip, it’s worth $25k+. Not sitting in that flip, it’s worth maybe $500 as a lottery ticket. Take the card back, get it authenticated, and then sell it for a ton of it is real.

As an aside, I said “authenticate”, bc I trust that PSA and SGC can detect a reprint. Based on everything we see lately, I have less trust in them detecting alterations.

Ryan Hotchkiss

[pokerplyr80]

Some of you seem to be getting pretty worked up over nothing. Assuming the OP is telling the truth and thought the card was probably a reprint I don't see any issue so far. Since he regularly sells on COMC it only cost him a couple bucks to send this card along and have someone there review it. If they confirm it is a reprint he can just sell it as one and move on. If they say it may be real then submit to PSA and hope he hit the jackpot.

The card is not listed for sale, so no harm has been done thus far.