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Old 11-06-2019, 06:12 PM
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It’s become readily apparent that none of the leading hobby businesses care a lick about the consumer, who happens to be their life-blood. Only dollars, market share and profits resonate with them. So unfortunately it is us collectors who have to look out for one another.

I don’t know what a booth at the National costs. But if someone at BODA can get it off the ground, I’ll contribute $100 towards the continuous loop video showing the thousands of examples of altered cards in PSA Slabs. Given PSA’s money, power and status within the Industry, I’m sure they’d find a way to squelch it very quickly (similar to how they censor/delete valid concerns in their own Forum).

Even though we’re all well versed on the problems and corruption, I would estimate that 98% of submitting collectors remain unaware. This could help to spread the word far better than anything that’s been done to date. It would have bigger impact in Chicago than AC, so there’s about a year and a half to get it going, should someone at BODA want to take it on.
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Same here. It’s become readily apparent that none of the leading hobby businesses care a lick about the consumer, who happens to be their life-blood. Only dollars, market share and profits resonate with them. So unfortunately it is us collectors who have to look out for one another.

I don’t know what a booth at the National costs. But if someone at BODA can get it off the ground, I’ll contribute $100 towards the continuous loop video showing the thousands of examples of altered cards in PSA Slabs. Given PSA’s money, power and status within the Industry, I’m sure they’d find a way to squelch it very quickly (similar to how they censor/delete valid concerns in their own Forum).

Even though we’re all well versed on the problems and corruption, I would estimate that 98% of submitting collectors remain unaware. This could help to spread the word far better than anything that’s been done to date. It would have bigger impact in Chicago than AC, so there’s about a year and a half to get it going, should someone at BODA want to take it on.
+1 I have $100 Bill Ready For that Booth in Atlantic City and every other National Location Chicago and Cleveland. Plus the other major shows, east coast national, winter madness at White Plains, Philly every show, Shriners, Sun Times, Every Single Major Large Show Where NB is Set Up.
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Lajoie Horrendous

This would be a perfect example, amongst thousands of other disgraced graded cards to show on Display at every card show next to their booth.......
This is the opinion you’re paying for....think twice
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:11 PM
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Ugh. Hopefully one of our centering mavens didn't buy it, or if they did they will see the post and return the thing.
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Ugh. Hopefully one of our centering mavens didn't buy it, or if they did they will see the post and return the thing.
Why would a centering maven buy that? It's not centered.
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Why would a centering maven buy that? It's not centered.
Yeah I guess not. Brent did sticker it and describe it as having outstanding centering though.
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Lajoie Horrendous

This would be a perfect example, amongst thousands of other disgraced graded cards to show on Display at every card show next to their booth.......
This is the opinion you’re paying for....think twice
I would think this card/grade gives credibility to those who believe PSA is involved in this scheme. A PSA 5 without a corner, most would get a 3.5 at best.
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Lajoie Horrendous

This would be a perfect example, amongst thousands of other disgraced graded cards to show on Display at every card show next to their booth.......
This is the opinion you’re paying for....think twice
Nice! A one point bump with more visible damage. Nothing out of PSA surprises me anymore.
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Nice! A one point bump with more visible damage. Nothing out of PSA surprises me anymore.
Yet on the other concurrent thread concerning the crack out and return of the GAI Card, everyone automatically seems to believe PSA is right and GAI was wrong. After thousands of concrete examples of egregious PSA mistakes, the assumption is still that PSA is infallible somehow. Explains a lot about the hoards of sheep in submission lines, and high prices still being realized in PWCC Auctions.

To (kind of) quote Steely Dan...

But they wouldn't know a trimmed card if they held it in their hand
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Yet on the other concurrent thread concerning the crack out and return of the GAI Card, everyone automatically seems to believe PSA is right and GAI was wrong. After thousands of concrete examples of egregious PSA mistakes, the assumption is still that PSA is infallible somehow. Explains a lot about the hoards of sheep in submission lines, and high prices still being realized in PWCC Auctions.

To (kind of) quote Steely Dan...

But they wouldn't know a trimmed card if they held it in their hand
The things they think are precious, I can't understand.
They're reeling in the cash for sure.
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Haha....

You one-upped me!
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Yet on the other concurrent thread concerning the crack out and return of the GAI Card, everyone automatically seems to believe PSA is right and GAI was wrong. After thousands of concrete examples of egregious PSA mistakes, the assumption is still that PSA is infallible somehow. Explains a lot about the hoards of sheep in submission lines, and high prices still being realized in PWCC Auctions.
Missing an alteration is a lot more common, and understandable, than identifying an alteration that isn't there.

PSA had every incentive to grade that $5,000 Gehrig with a number, and charge the corresponding grading fee. They saw something significant enough wrong with the card that they passed up that grading fee.
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Missing an alteration is a lot more common, and understandable, than identifying an alteration that isn't there.

PSA had every incentive to grade that $5,000 Gehrig with a number, and charge the corresponding grading fee. They saw something significant enough wrong with the card that they passed up that grading fee.
I thought you pay for the review irrespective of the result.
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