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Old 11-08-2019, 05:42 PM
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If the card would have crossed as a PSA 7, would the buyer have sent the seller 5K in appreciation? Certainly not, I’m in the camp you crack it out it’s yours! Nothing to lose only gain. Total 100% BS!
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:50 PM
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If the card would have crossed as a PSA 7, would the buyer have sent the seller 5K in appreciation? Certainly not, I’m in the camp you crack it out it’s yours! Nothing to lose only gain. Total 100% BS!
Same result if you open a wax pack?
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:57 PM
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Same result if you open a wax pack?
If it's graded by GAI, evidently so.


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Old 11-08-2019, 06:19 PM
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This guy was basically buying a lottery ticket hoping it would pay off. He paid what a PSA 5 of that card would normally cost, and hoped to get it into a PSA 7 holder making a quick three grand. When that didn't happen he wanted his money back. Sorry, but the gamble didn't pay off. Except in this case the loser is the guy that sold him the ticket!
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Old 11-08-2019, 06:36 PM
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This guy was basically buying a lottery ticket hoping it would pay off. He paid what a PSA 5 of that card would normally cost, and hoped to get it into a PSA 7 holder making a quick three grand. When that didn't happen he wanted his money back. Sorry, but the gamble didn't pay off. Except in this case the loser is the guy that sold him the ticket!
The altered ticket.
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:17 PM
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Sounds like the majority in this discussion believe if an altered card can fool a TPG and receive a number then anyone who buys it is stuck without recourse. I would have hoped everyone would support the buyer's right to have a refund should an "outed" card be identified and returned.
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:24 PM
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Sounds like the majority in this discussion believe if an altered card can fool a TPG and receive a number then anyone who buys it is stuck without recourse. I would have hoped everyone would support the buyer's right to have a refund should an "outed" card be identified and returned.
Oh, they do, if it's an unpopular seller.
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Sounds like the majority in this discussion believe if an altered card can fool a TPG and receive a number then anyone who buys it is stuck without recourse. I would have hoped everyone would support the buyer's right to have a refund should an "outed" card be identified and returned.
How do you know it's altered? Because PSA says so? Yeah, they're pretty good at determining that.
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The altered ticket.
No, the GAI 7 as advertised
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Old 11-08-2019, 06:13 PM
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What if the card would have come back as a counterfeit , would you guys still be on the sellers side ?
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:56 PM
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it was all on the buyer once he cracked it out. As was mentioned you buy the card as guaranteed by the grading company when slabbed. Additionally I believe the case and card were deemed authentic and unaltered so even stretching the argument out a little - ostensibly only the grade is subjective. The buyer altered a part of the original item.
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