CAS authentications by Mike Root ;reputable?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

Given that they are cards that were inserted into packs, I don't have guess the years.

Classic was 1992, Signature Rookies was 1994 and Leaf was 1996.

I double-checked and the Leaf one was literally inserted into packs signed. I attached a BGS graded example. There are many PSA ones as well.

And for Classic and Signature Rookies Jeter literally signed over 10,000 copies that were inserted into packs. I'm not knowledgeable to know whether these were pack inserted autographs or not (my gut is that those two are not). The style looks similar to me to the mid-90's, although you seem extremely confident that is not the case...

Not one of those "Jeter" autographs "certed" by CAS were pack-pulled.

That's a fact.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Just to be straight forward, I don't know CSA or Mike Root. I saw him set up at the National, but I don't think I have spoke with him. I have no reason to doubt what you guys are saying about him being a good guy and in it for the right reasons. I was just posting a face that Jose aka us_caine seems to have a number of items "authenticated" by CSA, but Jose beats the other guys too.

I primarily post this stuff to prevent any Net45 ers from losing money. I have no other interest.

I have mentioned before that I buy and sell a fair amount of autographs and I do use authentication when I sell my items. They sell for more and the buyer feels better about buying the item rather than just relying on someone's word that they don't know. This isn't an authentication rant, just a notice so if someone knows CSA pass the word along.

This is a link to us_caine

https://www.ebay.com/sch/us_caine/m....p2047675.l2562

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Not one of those "Jeter" autographs "certed" by CAS were pack-pulled.

That's a fact.

Even the one that has "authentic autograph" printed on the card (the Leaf one)?

As stated, I'm not close to enough of an expert to say you are wrong, and I don't own a single Jeter autograph, so I have no skin in the game, but I'd love to understand how you are so sure?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

Even the one that has "authentic autograph" printed on the card (the Leaf one)?

As stated, I'm not close to enough of an expert to say you are wrong, and I don't own a single Jeter autograph, so I have no skin in the game, but I'd love to understand how you are so sure?

CAS did not cert the "1996 Leaf Signature" forgery. That is also a counterfeit card.

That counterfeit card was produced by the same ring that are counterfeiting Jeter, Mays, Unitas, Koufax, Harper and other cards.

[Duluth Eskimo]

I will also add that the seller does have items that I believe are good and has sold quality items recently that I believe are good. Many are not so I’m not sure if someone is consigning items to him or if he is just hiding he garbage in with good stuff. I will state that I believe a number of authenticated items he is selling are garbage. Many if not all of the non authenticated cards are forgeries as well as stuff like Puckett, Bo Jackson, Walter Payton, and others. I have seen him sell a number of Rickey Henderson items that I believe are garbage. Judge for yourself, but I’m convinced otherwise. Carry on with the Jeter discussion.

[steve B]

The Jeter card is not one of the pack inserts that were signed.
Those will have "authentic signature" in foil where this one has "1 of 45,000"
The inserts were also hand numbered to 8650.

I'm not an expert, but I did at one time have three of the pack pulled Jeters, all gotten from packs I bought. The signatures are pretty consistent, and signed mostly level. And don't really look much like this one.

Is it a signed common from the set? I don't know for sure, but I'd bet against it being real.
I used to regularly search Ebay for deals on Signature rookies cards, (Yeah, but I like them, so... ) And don't recall seeing a signed common from the set.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by steve B

The Jeter card is not one of the pack inserts that were signed.
Those will have "authentic signature" in foil where this one has "1 of 45,000"
The inserts were also hand numbered to 8650.

I'm not an expert, but I did at one time have three of the pack pulled Jeters, all gotten from packs I bought. The signatures are pretty consistent, and signed mostly level. And don't really look much like this one.

Is it a signed common from the set? I don't know for sure, but I'd bet against it being real.
I used to regularly search Ebay for deals on Signature rookies cards, (Yeah, but I like them, so... ) And don't recall seeing a signed common from the set.

Steve, absolutely correct when you write "But I'd bet against these being real."

Those are forgeries.

I reached out to CAS (Mike Root) and I asked him "What year did Jeter sign these?"

He could not tell me.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Here is the third forged "Jeter" certed by CAS and sold by Ebay seller Eclarkjr (who also sold one of the forged/counterfeit Kobe Bryant "2000-01 UP Ovation" cards.

Ebay seller Eclarkjr sold four "Jeter" autographs certed by CAS as "authentic."


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