CAS authentications by Mike Root ;reputable?

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Not one of those "Jeter" autographs "certed" by CAS were pack-pulled.

That's a fact.

Even the one that has "authentic autograph" printed on the card (the Leaf one)?

As stated, I'm not close to enough of an expert to say you are wrong, and I don't own a single Jeter autograph, so I have no skin in the game, but I'd love to understand how you are so sure?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Topnotchsy

Even the one that has "authentic autograph" printed on the card (the Leaf one)?

As stated, I'm not close to enough of an expert to say you are wrong, and I don't own a single Jeter autograph, so I have no skin in the game, but I'd love to understand how you are so sure?

CAS did not cert the "1996 Leaf Signature" forgery. That is also a counterfeit card.

That counterfeit card was produced by the same ring that are counterfeiting Jeter, Mays, Unitas, Koufax, Harper and other cards.

[Duluth Eskimo]

I will also add that the seller does have items that I believe are good and has sold quality items recently that I believe are good. Many are not so I’m not sure if someone is consigning items to him or if he is just hiding he garbage in with good stuff. I will state that I believe a number of authenticated items he is selling are garbage. Many if not all of the non authenticated cards are forgeries as well as stuff like Puckett, Bo Jackson, Walter Payton, and others. I have seen him sell a number of Rickey Henderson items that I believe are garbage. Judge for yourself, but I’m convinced otherwise. Carry on with the Jeter discussion.

[steve B]

The Jeter card is not one of the pack inserts that were signed.
Those will have "authentic signature" in foil where this one has "1 of 45,000"
The inserts were also hand numbered to 8650.

I'm not an expert, but I did at one time have three of the pack pulled Jeters, all gotten from packs I bought. The signatures are pretty consistent, and signed mostly level. And don't really look much like this one.

Is it a signed common from the set? I don't know for sure, but I'd bet against it being real.
I used to regularly search Ebay for deals on Signature rookies cards, (Yeah, but I like them, so... ) And don't recall seeing a signed common from the set.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by steve B

The Jeter card is not one of the pack inserts that were signed.
Those will have "authentic signature" in foil where this one has "1 of 45,000"
The inserts were also hand numbered to 8650.

I'm not an expert, but I did at one time have three of the pack pulled Jeters, all gotten from packs I bought. The signatures are pretty consistent, and signed mostly level. And don't really look much like this one.

Is it a signed common from the set? I don't know for sure, but I'd bet against it being real.
I used to regularly search Ebay for deals on Signature rookies cards, (Yeah, but I like them, so... ) And don't recall seeing a signed common from the set.

Steve, absolutely correct when you write "But I'd bet against these being real."

Those are forgeries.

I reached out to CAS (Mike Root) and I asked him "What year did Jeter sign these?"

He could not tell me.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Here is the third forged "Jeter" certed by CAS and sold by Ebay seller Eclarkjr (who also sold one of the forged/counterfeit Kobe Bryant "2000-01 UP Ovation" cards.

Ebay seller Eclarkjr sold four "Jeter" autographs certed by CAS as "authentic."


EclarkjrJeterForged-1.jpg

[Allinone]

I just wanted to set the record straight regarding items authenticated by myself through CAS Certified Authentication Service. I have worked in the Authentication field professionally for over 15 years. Working as an authenticator may be the most challenging job you can have in the hobby. With that being said I am always willing to review any autograph that is put into question regarding the authenticity. That review process does take some time to be conducted. What we cannot and will not do is immediately discount our opinion based on accusations made regarding an authentication we have done. The nature of the Authentication business in general is constantly the target of criticisms. Our decisions are made based on the opinion of myself and numerous consultants we use from different fields of expertise. I hold myself to the highest level of integrity and accuracy at all times. One of the most difficult things for most authentication companies/authenticators to do is admit that they can make mistakes sometimes. It does happen and the key to evolving is learning from them and becoming further educated and experienced. If more people were willing to try and work together with the Authentication companies instead of jumping at the opportunity to point fingers the hobby would be a much better place.