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07-06-2020, 11:39 PM
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>> but scales of probability in between that then invite one to consider other factors...
My understanding has been that the guy holding the ball in these earlier 19thC team photos is THE pitcher (or maybe I should say "probably" the pitcher.) Your "Anson" is holding the ball and I can only find mention of him playing 2nd base at Marshaltown. I can't find mention of him being the team's pitcher, though my 10 minutes of research has not been exhaustive. So how does does this factor into your probabilities? Last edited by bmarlowe1; 07-06-2020 at 11:43 PM. 
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07-07-2020, 12:04 AM
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“I dated the Marshalltown tintype as c. 1870, because in it Anson seems more developed than in the albumen image dated c. 1868. The question rises, even if the images are from different years, whether there are any overlap of players, as one would reasonably expect at least a few. Logic would suggest starting one's search by focusing on the players sitting to Anson's right and left, as by their prominent positions in the front of the photo adjacent to Anson they would seem to be good candidates to be team veterans. The person on the front right in the tintype bears a strong resemblance to the person standing in the middle of the albumen image. Among its consistencies are a comparable tilting of the lips when the reverse image of the tintype is factored in.”
Corey-if you date the tintype as two years later than the albumen photo how do you account for the fact that the majority of the players in the tintype are younger looking than the players in the albumen photo? Why would Anson be playing with younger players as he aged?
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07-07-2020, 03:55 AM
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We can go on and on about this. But, to repeat my main point, photo ID in this instance is inconclusive. We are in the area of shades of gray. To some it could be a dark gray, to others a light gray. Once you transverse out of the area of science to the area of art, subjectivity comes in and different people can reasonably have different opinions. You made a comment earlier about your aptitude. I don't question that you have knowledge in this area. But, and I say this respectfully, you might want to consider that another sign of increased knowledge is an increased appreciation of what you don't know and the limitations of what available evidence can conclusively tell you. Last edited by benjulmag; 07-07-2020 at 04:17 AM.
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07-10-2020, 07:43 AM
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To the members who posted items they won, great pickups! Joe, I especially like the 1865 one. No one posted it, but the caricature tintype of the pitcher throwing underhanded was pretty cool. It went for about 400+ which I was surprised about.
What do you think of the Athletics player? A friend of mine bought it. The uniform does not match the 1874 woodcut but it is close. Do folks think it might show a Philadelphia Athletics player? Alan
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