Best lefty off all time? My vote is Koufax!

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Originally Posted by cammb

After reading the last couple of threads I have changed my mind. I don't think he was the best left handler in baseball, but rather a mediocre pitcher who happened to pitch in a park that only made him great and only him great and all of the players and sportswriters of his time must have eyesight trouble and they raised the pitchers mound for him and expanded baseball teams just so he can dominate them. You're right he's a bum.

Because that's exactly what I said.

Nice strawman.

Koufax would have been a marginal HOFer had his home park not been Dodger Stadium. Obviously that is the same as saying he was a bum.

If he doesn't have the injury and is able to have a few more really good years, even without Dodger Stadium helping him he is a first ballot HOFer.

The fact is that he was greatly helped by his home field AND he had an unfortunately too short prime due to injury. Even with his shortened career, "Road Only Koufax" still likely would have been a marginal HOFer. So with everything going against him he still likely would have been in.

But that's not the debate of this thread. The debate here is greatest lefty ever. Koufax road stats tell me even in his prime you cannot make that case, let alone the fact that his prime was so tragically short.

Now go find another strawman to argue against. And don't let your dumb show so easily it's unbecoming.