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Old 11-20-2020, 01:53 PM
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The vast majority of Feller cards are unbelievably reasonable in comparison to how lights out that guy was. Always been puzzled why he's not held in higher regard generally.
I think the "cheapest" pitcher (and maybe overall player) is Jim Palmer.

Third best lifetime ERA of all live-ball retired starting pitchers, behind a guy who admitting cheating for years and one who retired at age 30 . Even though he lived in a pitchers' park, that still ain't bad.

Nor is 1970-1978 when, if you throw out the year that his arm was falling off for awhile, he won 20 games w/ a sub 3.00 ERA eight consecutive times. And a couple World Series rings and top notch postseason numbers through a ton of playoff starts.

His rookie card (raw in about grade 2 but very presentable), just cost me $15. As part of a lot with half a dozen other '66 cards in the same grade, including Joe Morgan's second year. A PSA 7 is less than 200 bucks. In this market.

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I think the "cheapest" pitcher (and maybe overall player) is Jim Palmer.
Totally agree. Palmer won 20 games 8 times and 3 CYA's in 4 years. But today pretty much all people want to talk about from that era in terms of pitchers is Nolan Ryan. Kind of hard to believe.

Steve Carlton in in the same boat. Ask any baseball fan in 1980 who was the greater pitcher, Carlton, Palmer, or Ryan? And I guarantee you the answer would not have been Ryan from most people. But just like you were saying about Palmer - I got a nice '65 Topps Carlton rookie last year, I think it was a PSA 4.5 - for only about a hundred bucks. Nutso.
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Totally agree. Palmer won 20 games 8 times and 3 CYA's in 4 years. But today pretty much all people want to talk about from that era in terms of pitchers is Nolan Ryan. Kind of hard to believe.

Steve Carlton in in the same boat. Ask any baseball fan in 1980 who was the greater pitcher, Carlton, Palmer, or Ryan? And I guarantee you the answer would not have been Ryan from most people. But just like you were saying about Palmer - I got a nice '65 Topps Carlton rookie last year, I think it was a PSA 4.5 - for only about a hundred bucks. Nutso.
Yep. Palmer's rookie was in here like it's barely above a common.

Plus as a rabid Pirate fan growing up, a bucco belter with Willie doesn't hurt

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Totally agree. Palmer won 20 games 8 times and 3 CYA's in 4 years. But today pretty much all people want to talk about from that era in terms of pitchers is Nolan Ryan. Kind of hard to believe.

Steve Carlton in in the same boat. Ask any baseball fan in 1980 who was the greater pitcher, Carlton, Palmer, or Ryan? And I guarantee you the answer would not have been Ryan from most people. But just like you were saying about Palmer - I got a nice '65 Topps Carlton rookie last year, I think it was a PSA 4.5 - for only about a hundred bucks. Nutso.
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Don't forget Seaver.
Seaver, Gibson, Carlton, Marichal, Palmer, Perry, Jenkins...others? No disrespect but in their primes they were all better pitchers than Nolan Ryan. This is just an observation, nothing personal. Nolan was my favorite player growing up and he's one of the few players I PC specifically today.
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To put today's madness in perspective, what if there was a limited Bowman Chrome Auto refractor of this top-rated kid named Gregg Jeffries? Can't miss for 50k.
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To put today's madness in perspective, what if there was a limited Bowman Chrome Auto refractor of this top-rated kid named Gregg Jeffries? Can't miss for 50k.
I don't even know what that means LOL....

Back to Cobb, Gehrig, a guy named Ruth and old Cy Young...

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I don't even know what that means LOL....

Back to Cobb, Gehrig, a guy named Ruth and old Cy Young...

That Cy Young Guy, must have been named after the award! Wonder if he'll turn into anything good!
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I don't even know what that means LOL....

Back to Cobb, Gehrig, a guy named Ruth and old Cy Young...
Just a little late on the Dominguez comment and the title of the thread. Jeffries was a can't miss prospect and would probably be a $50k card for some of the higher-end stuff. Consider what happened. And now a token Young
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To put today's madness in perspective, what if there was a limited Bowman Chrome Auto refractor of this top-rated kid named Gregg Jeffries? Can't miss for 50k.
You're spot on with that comment. I remember the late-80s hype surrounding Jeffries. Fielding ground balls - that were wrapped in electrical tape - on an asphalt surface / taking BP swings while standing in a swimming pool. These things would have "gone viral" on YouTube and "broken the Internet" back then.

Too bad we only had network TV, and maybe cable. Maybe that's why we were only paying $4 for Jeffries' rookie.
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