Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?

[MooseDog]

With all due respect the "...can't afford health insurance" argument doesn't hold water any more.

I can only speak for myself, but as a self-employed/independent contractor I couldn't afford health insurance until the ACA (aka ObamaCare) came along. The ACA has literally been a life saver and my premiums have gone up and down as my income has fluctuated wildly, but was always affordable with a manageable deductible and was never tied to any particular work or job I did.

Anyone who doesn't have a job or health insurance at the moment can probably get nearly fully subsidized health insurance until their situation changes. For example my premium was dropped to $1/month when I was fully unemployed for a bit.

If anything, this is an example of why we shouldn't have to tie health insurance to jobs.

Originally Posted by jgannon

Many people simply CAN'T AFFORD health insurance. And they're not driving around in gold Cadillacs. Millions of people lost their jobs and their health insurance due to the pandemic. And there were already millions who didn't have health insurance before it - who were working full time, often at more than one job.

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by MooseDog

With all due respect the "...can't afford health insurance" argument doesn't hold water any more.

I can only speak for myself, but as a self-employed/independent contractor I couldn't afford health insurance until the ACA (aka ObamaCare) came along. The ACA has literally been a life saver and my premiums have gone up and down as my income has fluctuated wildly, but was always affordable with a manageable deductible and was never tied to any particular work or job I did.

Anyone who doesn't have a job or health insurance at the moment can probably get nearly fully subsidized health insurance until their situation changes. For example my premium was dropped to $1/month when I was fully unemployed for a bit.

If anything, this is an example of why we shouldn't have to tie health insurance to jobs.

There are all too many instances of people who have healthcare who can't afford their medicines and treatments, and copays. So even if you have healthcare, it doesn't guarantee adequate coverage.

I'm glad the ACA worked for you. But as you said, you are speaking for yourself. Your situation is not everybody's.

[packs]

I often find the issues with these discussions is that people on the board don’t know many other people who aren’t like themselves socioeconomically. There is this assumption everyone is on equal footing. If you think the issue with healthcare is that too many people get it, try talking to someone who doesn’t have it. If you think healthcare is so cheap it’s crazy not to have it, talk to someone who doesn’t qualify like you do. That’s the only way to understand the lives of others.

[MooseDog]

But that's the point of the ACA. Just about everybody can qualify. I have a very good friend who would qualify for a $1/mo subsidized plan, but he chooses to go uninsured because he's been indoctrinated to believe ObamaCare = bad.

Originally Posted by packs

I often find the issues with these discussions is that people on the board don’t know many other people who aren’t like themselves socioeconomically. There is this assumption everyone is on equal footing. If you think the issue with healthcare is that too many people get it, try talking to someone who doesn’t have it. If you think healthcare is so cheap it’s crazy not to have it, talk to someone who doesn’t qualify like you do. That’s the only way to understand the lives of others isn’t it?

[packs]

There are still 12 states who did not expand their coverage.

[Mark17]

The vaccine for Covid is free. Not sure what the general debate about health care has to do with it.

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by Mark17

The vaccine for Covid is free. Not sure what the general debate about health care has to do with it.

The vaccines are free, and the tests are free. But for many people who had covid and were in the hospital, they are facing absolute financial ruin.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Mark17

The vaccine for Covid is free.

Also, the tests are free.


Who's really paying for them?

Dont underestimate a man's intentions when profit is at stake.

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by packs

There are still 12 states who did not expand their coverage.

And in most of the states which did not expand, adults without children are ineligible.