ebay finds that PWCC engaged in shill bidding?

[Wite3]

Originally Posted by Snowman

There might very well be all sorts of shenanigans going on at PWCC. I'm not defending them. I'm merely pointing out that this list proves nothing. Then, I demonstrated why with an example from my own purchases.

What if I told you that the data points you provide from your own purchases could have been shilled and you overpaid due to that bidding practice? It sounds like you are trying to prop up your own recent purchases now.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Wite3

What if I told you that the data points you provide from your own purchases could have been shilled and you overpaid due to that bidding practice? It sounds like you are trying to prop up your own recent purchases now.

No! Say it ain't so!


Anyone remember the "sale" of the signed psa 5 Mantle psa reported....long before the run up for 275k? Literally was 10x the last sale and it had to be "noted" somewhere

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

No! Say it ain't so!


Anyone remember the "sale" of the signed psa 5 Mantle psa reported....long before the run up for 275k? Literally was 10x the last sale and it had to be "noted" somewhere

That outlier sale actually was a real transaction; the owner has the #1 signed Mantle Registry set. He is very wealthy and felt it was worth the money so he splurged for a piece he wanted. Man, I wish that sale never happened, let alone several of the sales afterward; that domino chain cost me a bundle collecting that stuff. The 4 card/9 auto that sold at Heritage a little ways back was also legit as a very respected member here and on SCT won it. A member here also won the Heritage signed 52b that went 69k. Sometimes an explosion is like the 1925 Gehrig; they’re cheap until they suddenly ain’t, and then they stay that way as the hobby accepts the new valuation/price point.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by MattyC

That outlier sale actually was a real transaction; the owner has the #1 signed Mantle Registry set. He is very wealthy and felt it was worth the money so he splurged for a piece he wanted. Man, I wish that sale never happened, let alone several of the sales afterward; that domino chain cost me a bundle collecting that stuff. The 4 card/9 auto that sold at Heritage a little ways back was also legit as a very respected member here and on SCT won it. A member here also won the Heritage signed 52b that went 69k. Sometimes an explosion is like the 1925 Gehrig; they’re cheap until they suddenly ain’t, and then they stay that way as the hobby accepts the new valuation/price point.

Oh it was, but it kind of BEGS U to ask why he needed that sale recorded. Just glad I didnt sell him mine, as it was about 1/20 the cost of that (now a) 5.5. Course now it looks like a bargain.

Ive found most people that are "very wealthy" dont want people to know it, and hardly show it off.



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[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Oh it was, but it kind of BEGS U to ask why he needed that sale recorded. Just glad I didnt sell him mine, as it was about 1/20 the cost of that (now a) 5.5. Course now it looks like a bargain.

Ive found most people that are "very wealthy" dont want people to know it, and hardly show it off.



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I see what u did there, my friend! Big fan of your example. Has great overall eye appeal. I know this is more for PM but did you ever get background on who had it signed? Looks like it has a great story behind it.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I see what u did there, my friend! Big fan of your example. Has great overall eye appeal. I know this is more for PM but did you ever get background on who had it signed? Looks like it has a great story behind it.

I did not, it was an (in person) ebay purchased from an ebay purchase in 2009 from power.buyer1

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