So do you think Kershaw retires?

[Peter_Spaeth]

To me he will always be the man who got shelled in the post season, inexplicably, time after time after time.

On his regular season record, you have to rank him pretty high, 15-20 ish I would think, not top 10.

[Mike D.]

If he retired today, Kershaw would be #31 all time in WAR for a starting pitcher.

Of those ahead of him, only Clemens (for obvious reasons), 19th Century pitcher Jim McCormick, and likely future inductees Curt Schilling and Zack Greinke are not in the Hall.

If he needs to go under the knife, though, I think he does it...with a new elbow he could pitch 2-3 more seasons and move himself into some really interesting comp conversations.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

To me he will always be the man who got shelled in the post season, inexplicably, time after time after time.

On his regular season record, you have to rank him pretty high, 15-20 ish I would think, not top 10.

A timely injury and the Dodgers are probably happy with an improved chance of winning the World Series.

[egri]

I think he'll get the surgery and come back as a reliever. He's not the force he used to be, but he still has enough left in the tank.

[packs]

HOFer for sure but a very low tier one in my opinion. Even Tim Hudson has 200 wins.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

HOFer for sure but a very low tier one in my opinion. Even Tim Hudson has 200 wins.

3 Cy Youngs and 2 second places. 2.49 career ERA. Dominant for a decade. Very low tier? No. Way.

[packs]

How do you view Greinke?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

How do you view Greinke?

Definite HOF, a tier or two below Kershaw, I would have to think about ranking him but maybe somewhere in the 30s or could slip to the 40s because his ERA while solid isn't in elite range.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by packs

How do you view Greinke?

Google his name. Lots of pictures will come up. (I couldn't resist.)