What's gone down in price?

[Santo10Fan]

Compared to the 1952 Topps Mantle, there's ample evidence that green Cobb is much more rare, as expected. 970 Cobbs compared to 1806 Mantles in the PSA record. I'd bet there's more demand for 52 Mantle but maybe demand for Cobb is finally working on that gap. Either way, there's a strong case to be made that it was undervalued pre-pandemic and likely still is.

As for volatility, the good news is those of us who migrated from crypto were looking for a safe haven in the Hobby. I can't speak for the firms that formed in 2020 and started buying up Hobby standards from all sports, but I'm sure they will look to manipulate the market just like they do with bitcoin. The key will be recognizing when the sell-offs take place. It seemed like one took place last summer but I really wouldn't know.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Santo10Fan

Compared to the 1952 Topps Mantle, there's ample evidence that green Cobb is much more rare, as expected. 970 Cobbs compared to 1806 Mantles in the PSA record. I'd bet there's more demand for 52 Mantle but maybe demand for Cobb is finally working on that gap. Either way, there's a strong case to be made that it was undervalued pre-pandemic and likely still is.

As for volatility, the good news is those of us who migrated from crypto were looking for a safe haven in the Hobby. I can't speak for the firms that formed in 2020 and started buying up Hobby standards from all sports, but I'm sure they will look to manipulate the market just like they do with bitcoin. The key will be recognizing when the sell-offs take place. It seemed like one took place last summer but I really wouldn't know.

id surmise the pop report is grossly skewed as t206 cobbs are likely to have been graded by SGC whereas 52 mantles are more likely to be graded by psa.

[Santo10Fan]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

id surmise the pop report is grossly skewed as t206 cobbs are likely to have been graded by SGC whereas 52 mantles are more likely to be graded by psa.

571 is the Cobb number I got from SGC database, compared to 569 for Mantle. So that bumps the overall gross ratio up to nearly 2:1 in favor of surviving Mantles vs. Cobbs, 2375 to 1541. Still impossible to ever know the real numbers I suppose

[Exhibitman]

How many collectors do you know with raw 1952 T Mantles vs. with raw T206 Cobb green portraits? In my admittedly small circle I know of several collectors with raw T206 sets and only one with a raw 1952T Mantle.

[Touch'EmAll]

The last Heritage auction had a 1949 Bowman Paige PSA 8 go for $30.k - Wowzer! And it was centered between 65/35 and 60/40 side/side. And with slight brown toning. Elevator up !

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

How many collectors do you know with raw 1952 T Mantles vs. with raw T206 Cobb green portraits? In my admittedly small circle I know of several collectors with raw T206 sets and only one with a raw 1952T Mantle.

I wonder how many of those Cobbs were cracked out of cases. It seems (to me, at least) more likely than a '52 Mantle getting sprung from plastic prison.

[Tao_Moko]

Originally Posted by Eric72

I wonder how many of those Cobbs were cracked out of cases. It seems (to me, at least) more likely than a '52 Mantle getting sprung from plastic prison.

I can account for at least one Cobb.

[JollyElm]

I rarely sell anything, but in looking to help pay for rotator cuff surgery this summer, I put up a pretty nicely centered PSA 4 Nolan Ryan rookie card for sale. In the post I showed the last group of sales for PSA 4s, which was basically these amounts...

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The offers were lower than I wanted, so I decided to hold onto it. For the heck of it, I recently checked what PSA 4s are going for these days, and I had to take the elevator to the basement...

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That's a steep decline. Yowza!!!!